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From: "Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 7/7] intel-iommu: keep buggy EIM enabled in 2.7 machine type
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 18:49:45 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160929164944.GB12788@potion> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160929150119.GS3877@thinpad.lan.raisama.net>

2016-09-29 15:19+0200, Paolo Bonzini:
> On 29/09/2016 13:23, Radim Krčmář wrote:
>> QEMU 2.7 allowed EIM even in configurations that were forbidden in the
>> last patch because they were not working, like old KVM or userspace
>> APIC.  In order to keep backward compatibility, we again allow guests to
>> misbehave in non-obvious ways, and make it the default.
>> 
>> Signed-off-by: Radim Krčmář <rkrcmar@redhat.com>
> 
> Ugh, I misremembered that VTD_ECAP_EIM was not set in 2.7. :(  Perhaps
> it's better to drop this patch...

I think that adding this backward compatibility hack into code that is
supposed to be developed is not a good idea.


2016-09-29 12:01-0300, Eduardo Habkost:
> If you break compatibility and fix it in separate patches, you
> break bisectability (even for people that are bisecting bugs
> unrelated to EIM).

I'd keep it as a separate patch and let maintainers decide whether they
want to squish or drop it.

> (But I still don't understand if patch 6/7 really breaks
> anything, or not.)

Nothing useful.
It "breaks" three cases:

1) If user configured

     -machine kernel_irqchip=off -device intel_iommu,intremap=on

   QEMU 2.7 pc-q35-2.7 enabled (broken) EIM, but 2.8 wouldn't, leading
   to a different machine.

   (The same with new KVM and split irqchip.)

2) If user had old KVM and configured

     -machine kernel_irqchip=split -device intel_iommu,intremap=on

   QEMU 2.7 pc-q35-2.7 enabled (broken) EIM, but after offline migration
   to 2.8, QEMU would refuse to start.

3) If user started a pc-q35-2.7 with QEMU 2.8 on a new KVM, then they
   could use cluster x2APIC without a problem, but the guest wouldn't
   work after offline migration to QEMU 2.7 (I'm not sure if this case
   is supported).

Luckily, the intel-iommu device doesn't support live migration. :)

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-29 16:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-29 11:23 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/7] intel_iommu: fix EIM Radim Krčmář
2016-09-29 11:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/7] apic: add global apic_get_class() Radim Krčmář
2016-09-29 14:53   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-09-29 15:58     ` Radim Krčmář
2016-09-29 11:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 2/7] apic: add send_msi() to APICCommonClass Radim Krčmář
2016-09-29 11:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 3/7] intel_iommu: pass whole remapped addresses to apic Radim Krčmář
2016-09-29 11:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 4/7] intel-iommu: exit on invalid configuraton earlier Radim Krčmář
2016-09-29 11:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 5/7] intel-iommu: add OnOffAuto intr_eim as "eim" property Radim Krčmář
2016-09-30  5:13   ` Peter Xu
2016-09-30 13:50     ` Radim Krčmář
2016-09-29 11:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 6/7] intel_iommu: reject broken EIM Radim Krčmář
2016-09-29 13:18   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-29 16:06     ` Igor Mammedov
2016-09-29 16:56       ` Radim Krčmář
2016-09-29 16:56         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-29 15:53   ` Igor Mammedov
2016-09-29 11:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 7/7] intel-iommu: keep buggy EIM enabled in 2.7 machine type Radim Krčmář
2016-09-29 13:19   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-09-29 15:01   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-09-29 16:49     ` Radim Krčmář [this message]
2016-09-30  5:40   ` Peter Xu
2016-09-30 13:55     ` Radim Krčmář

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