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From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Programmingkid <programmingkidx@gmail.com>
Cc: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	"list@suse.de:PowerPC list:PowerPC" <qemu-ppc@nongnu.org>,
	Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] How to add my implementation of the fmadds instruction to QEMU
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 10:39:57 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160930003957.GO30519@umbus.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <06358F28-FC0A-4BA7-82C4-61A059EDF42E@gmail.com>

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On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 12:55:23PM -0400, Programmingkid wrote:
> 
> On Sep 29, 2016, at 11:41 AM, Peter Maydell wrote:
> 
> > On 28 September 2016 at 21:17, David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
> >> I think there is a way you could get both speed and accuracy, but it's
> >> a huge project:
> >> 
> >> You'd need to add full float awareness to TCG - so floating point TCG
> >> values and floating point operations as tcp micro-ops, defined
> >> according to IEEE semantics.  Then you'd need to rewrite the TCG
> >> frontends in terms of those new ops, at least for target CPUs close
> >> enough to IEEE semantics for that to work.  And you'd need to rewrite
> >> the TCG backends to implement those fp ops in terms of host cpu fp
> >> instructions .. at least when the host has fp behaviour close enough
> >> to IEEE to make that work, with a fallback to soft float when that's
> >> not the case.
> > 
> > Also even if you have float support in both frontend and backend
> > you still need to fall back to fully-emulated for the runtime
> > corner cases (like where tininess before/after rounding makes a
> > difference or where you need to care about minutiae of the
> > floating point exception flags, etc). It's not impossible
> > but it is a very large amount of technically complicated work.
> 
> 
> This project sounds like it should have its own web page. Maybe even
> its own Google Summer of Code entry. I created a mindmap of
> this project. The picture is attached to this email. This is
> just a start. Please let me know what should be added or changed.

TBH, I think this is rather bigger than a GSoC project.

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-30  0:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-09-27  1:05 [Qemu-devel] How to add my implementation of the fmadds instruction to QEMU G 3
2016-09-27  3:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " David Gibson
2016-09-27 11:43 ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Maydell
2016-09-27 14:33   ` G 3
2016-09-27 15:21     ` Peter Maydell
2016-09-27 16:16     ` Eric Blake
2016-09-27 16:51       ` G 3
2016-09-27 16:58         ` Peter Maydell
2016-09-29  4:17           ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " David Gibson
2016-09-29 15:20             ` Programmingkid
2016-09-29 18:19               ` Alex Bennée
2016-09-29 21:52                 ` Programmingkid
2016-09-29 22:36                   ` Alex Bennée
2016-09-29 22:39                     ` Programmingkid
2016-09-29 15:41             ` Peter Maydell
2016-09-29 16:55               ` Programmingkid
2016-09-30  0:39                 ` David Gibson [this message]
2016-09-30  0:44                   ` Programmingkid

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