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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] chardev's and fd's in monitors
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 10:45:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161021094514.GD2039@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8760omm5pu.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>

* Markus Armbruster (armbru@redhat.com) wrote:
> "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > * Markus Armbruster (armbru@redhat.com) wrote:
> >> "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com> writes:
> [...]
> >> > Realistically all the major backend subsystems (chardev, network, block,
> >> > ui and migration) need to be converted to Error ** propagation, since
> >> > they all ultimately call into some common code that reports Error **.
> >> 
> >> Infrastucture generally doesn't know how it's used, which means
> >> error_report() is generally wrong there.  Sufficiently simple functions
> >> can keep returning -errno, null, whatever, but the interesting stuff
> >> needs to use Error.
> >> > Very few places will end up being able to stick with -errno, or plain
> >> > error_report in the long term.
> >> 
> >> Not sure about "very few".  Less than now.  We'll see.
> >
> > I'd also prefer we got the very-few level; Migration used to be
> > characterised by getting a 'load of migration failed -22' and having
> > no clue in the logs to why; I've slowly fought back to be able
> > to get an error from the lowest level that caused the failure.
> > I want more of that, so that when someone gets a rare failure in the field
> > I can see why.
> 
> When it's about details that are only useful for debugging, logging
> might be a practical alternative.  No excuse for shoddy error reporting,
> of course.

It's detail I want in the initial error report rather than future debug;
to give a real example:

 qemu-system-ppc64: 9223477658187168481 != 9223477658187151905
 qemu-system-ppc64: Failed to load cpu:env.insns_flags
 qemu-system-ppc64: error while loading state for instance 0x0 of device 'cpu'
 qemu-system-ppc64: load of migration failed: Invalid argument

I wouldn't want to log the value loaded from each field unless I'm in the
pain of really bad debugging; but when one goes wrong like this getting the
value mismatch, the field name, and the device that failed is what I want
in the logs.

One point here is that those lines each come from a different function 
as we come back up out of the failure;  the one at the bottom doesn't
have the information on the device it's loading, just that it's loading
an integer and it's not the expected value.

Dave

--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-10-21  9:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-12 19:15 [Qemu-devel] chardev's and fd's in monitors Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-12 20:02 ` Marc-André Lureau
2016-10-13 15:47   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-18 10:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 11:32   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-18 11:41     ` Marc-André Lureau
2016-10-18 11:44       ` Marc-André Lureau
2016-10-18 12:01     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 13:25       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-18 13:35         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 13:52           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-18 14:01             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 18:53               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-19  7:45                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-19  8:00               ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-19  8:12                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-19  8:42                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-19  9:48                     ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-19 10:05                       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-19 10:16                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-19 12:16                           ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-19 12:21                             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-19 18:06                               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-20  8:37                                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-20  8:53                                   ` Marc-André Lureau
2016-10-20 10:45                                     ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 16:56                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-21  9:12                                     ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-21 21:06                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-24  7:07                                         ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-21  9:35                                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-20 16:59                                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-20  8:55                                 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20  9:03                                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-20  9:58                                     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-20 10:42                                       ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 11:01                                         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-20 11:10                                           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-20 11:45                                             ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 11:08                                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-20 11:57                                           ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 17:56                                             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-21  9:06                                               ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-21  9:37                                                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-21 11:56                                                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-21  9:45                                                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2016-10-19 12:26               ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-19 17:01                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-19 20:51                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-20  8:34                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 12:08   ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-18 12:13     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 12:43       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-18 10:06 ` Daniel P. Berrange

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