From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kraxel@redhat.com, laine@redhat.com,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] hw/pci: disable pci-bridge's shpc by default
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 21:40:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161103213514-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8400224e-073e-eebc-bbb6-43bae96f3155@redhat.com>
On Thu, Nov 03, 2016 at 01:05:44PM +0200, Marcel Apfelbaum wrote:
> On 11/03/2016 06:18 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 02, 2016 at 05:16:42PM +0200, Marcel Apfelbaum wrote:
> > > The shpc component is optional while ACPI hotplug is used
> > > for hot-plugging PCI devices into a PCI-PCI bridge.
> > > Disabling the shpc by default will make slot 0 usable at boot time
>
> Hi Michael
>
> >
> > at the cost of breaking all hotplug for all non-acpi users.
> >
>
> Do we have a non-acpi user that is able to use the shpc component as-is today?
power and some arm systems I guess?
> I remember we need to even tweak QEMU before it can be used, but I might be wrong.
>
> And we don't touch the current machines < 2.8 .
>
> > > and not only for hot-plug, without loosing any functionality.
> > > Older machines will have shpc enabled for compatibility reasons.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel@redhat.com>
> >
> > Is an extra slot such a big deal? You can always add more bridges ...
> >
>
> It is not only about the slot itself, but more about the usage model.
> The PCIe Upstream ports/DMI-PCI devices are also pci-bridges,
> but for them slot 0 is allowed.
The reason is that these devices are not themselves
hotpluggable. Isn't there a flag that allows adding
a non hotpluggable device? Allowing these would be one solution.
> And what about the hotplug? Slot 0 is not usable at boot, but then is
> usable again (for ACPI users) making people wondering:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1175113
Let's just disallow that then for consistency?
> My point is - can shpc be used as-is today? Even so, I suspect there are much (much)
> less users using SHPC than ACPI based hotplug. If this is the case, why bother the
> majority of the users? And for the shpc users, they can keep the prev machines
> or change the command line, I think changes like this happens over the time.
>
> Adding Markus for his opinion on command line changes.
>
> Thanks,
> Marcel
> > > ---
> > > hw/pci-bridge/pci_bridge_dev.c | 2 +-
> > > include/hw/compat.h | 4 ++++
> > > 2 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/hw/pci-bridge/pci_bridge_dev.c b/hw/pci-bridge/pci_bridge_dev.c
> > > index 5dbd933..647ad80 100644
> > > --- a/hw/pci-bridge/pci_bridge_dev.c
> > > +++ b/hw/pci-bridge/pci_bridge_dev.c
> > > @@ -163,7 +163,7 @@ static Property pci_bridge_dev_properties[] = {
> > > DEFINE_PROP_ON_OFF_AUTO(PCI_BRIDGE_DEV_PROP_MSI, PCIBridgeDev, msi,
> > > ON_OFF_AUTO_AUTO),
> > > DEFINE_PROP_BIT(PCI_BRIDGE_DEV_PROP_SHPC, PCIBridgeDev, flags,
> > > - PCI_BRIDGE_DEV_F_SHPC_REQ, true),
> > > + PCI_BRIDGE_DEV_F_SHPC_REQ, false),
> > > DEFINE_PROP_END_OF_LIST(),
> > > };
> > >
> > > diff --git a/include/hw/compat.h b/include/hw/compat.h
> > > index 0f06e11..388b7ec 100644
> > > --- a/include/hw/compat.h
> > > +++ b/include/hw/compat.h
> > > @@ -18,6 +18,10 @@
> > > .driver = "intel-iommu",\
> > > .property = "x-buggy-eim",\
> > > .value = "true",\
> > > + },{\
> > > + .driver = "pci-bridge",\
> > > + .property = "shpc",\
> > > + .value = "on",\
> > > },
> > >
> > > #define HW_COMPAT_2_6 \
> > > --
> > > 2.5.5
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-11-03 19:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-11-02 15:16 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] hw/pci: disable pci-bridge's shpc by default Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-11-02 16:01 ` Laine Stump
2016-11-03 11:08 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-11-03 15:24 ` Laine Stump
2016-11-03 16:43 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-11-03 19:09 ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-11-03 4:18 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-11-03 11:05 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-11-03 19:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2016-11-05 16:46 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-11-16 16:44 ` Andrew Jones
2016-11-16 17:05 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-11-18 15:52 ` Andrew Jones
2016-11-18 15:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-11-22 17:26 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-11-22 20:25 ` Laurent Vivier
2016-11-23 11:08 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-11-24 4:06 ` David Gibson
2016-11-24 9:39 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2016-11-25 4:14 ` David Gibson
2016-11-22 17:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-01-10 3:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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