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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	"Juan Quintela" <quintela@redhat.com>,
	"Eduardo Habkost" <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2] kvmclock: advance clock by time window between vm_stop and pre_save
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2016 20:03:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161107200349.GC1155@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161107194058.GB28327@amt.cnet>

* Marcelo Tosatti (mtosatti@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 07, 2016 at 03:46:11PM +0000, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > * Marcelo Tosatti (mtosatti@redhat.com) wrote:
> > > This patch, relative to pre-copy migration codepath,
> > > measures the time between vm_stop() and pre_save(),
> > > which includes copying the remaining RAM to destination,
> > > and advances the clock by that amount.
> > > 
> > > In a VM with 5 seconds downtime, this reduces the guest
> > > clock difference on destination from 5s to 0.2s.
> > > 
> > > Tested with Linux and Windows 2012 R2 guests with -cpu XXX,+hv-time.
> > 
> > One thing that bothers me is that it's only this clock that's
> > getting corrected; doesn't it cause things to get upset when
> > one clock moves and the others dont?
> 
> If you are correlating the clocks, then yes.
> 
> Older Linux guests get upset (marking the TSC clocksource unstable
> because the watchdog checks TSC vs kvmclock), but there is a workaround for it 
> in newer guests
> (kvmclock interface to notify watchdog to not complain).
> 
> Note marking TSC clocksource unstable on older guests is harmless
> because kvmclock is the standard clocksource.
> 
> For Windows guests, i don't know that Windows correlates between different
> clocks.
> 
> That is, there is relative control as to which software reads kvmclock 
> or Windows TIMER MSR, so i don't see the need to advance every clock 
> exposed.
> 
> > Shouldn't the pause delay be recorded somewhere architecturally
> > independent and then be a thing that kvm-clock happens to use and
> > other clocks might as well?
> 
> In theory, yes. In practice, i don't see the need for this... 

It seems unlikely to me that x86 is the only one that will want
to do something similar.

Dave

--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-07 20:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-04  9:43 [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH] kvmclock: advance clock by time window between vm_stop and pre_save Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-04 12:28 ` Juan Quintela
2016-11-04 12:35   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-04 14:00     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-04 15:25 ` Radim Krčmář
2016-11-04 15:33   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-04 15:48     ` Radim Krčmář
2016-11-04 15:57       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-04 17:16         ` Radim Krčmář
2016-11-04 21:29           ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-04 21:47             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-04 22:35               ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-07 14:31           ` Roman Kagan
2016-11-07 19:31             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-04 16:24       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-04 17:34         ` Radim Krčmář
2016-11-04 18:29           ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-04 20:07             ` Radim Krčmář
2016-11-04 16:04   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-04 17:07   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-04 17:39     ` Radim Krčmář
2016-11-04 18:31       ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-07 13:08       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-11-04 16:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [QEMU PATCH v2] " Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-04 18:57   ` Juan Quintela
2016-11-07 15:46   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-11-07 19:41     ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-07 20:03       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2016-11-08  0:06         ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-08 10:22           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-11-08 13:32             ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-09 19:32               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-09 16:23             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-09 16:28               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-11-09 16:33                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-10 11:48               ` Marcelo Tosatti
2016-11-10 17:57                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-11 14:23                   ` Marcelo Tosatti
2017-02-07 10:02       ` Wanpeng Li
2017-02-07 12:18         ` Marcelo Tosatti

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