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From: Jiri Denemark <jdenemar@redhat.com>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, libvir-list@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.9 15/17] target-i386: Define static "base" CPU model
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 17:02:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161216160236.GA964730@orkuz.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161205235745.GJ13060@thinpad.lan.raisama.net>

On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 21:57:45 -0200, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 07:18:47PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > Am 02.12.2016 um 22:18 schrieb Eduardo Habkost:
> > > The query-cpu-model-expand QMP command needs at least one static
> > > model, to allow the "static" expansion mode to be implemented.
> > > Instead of defining static versions of every CPU model, define a
> > > "base" CPU model that has absolutely no feature flag enabled.
> > > 
> > 
> > Introducing separate ones makes feature lists presented to the user much
> > shorter (and therefore easier to maintain). But I don't know how libvirt
> > wants to deal with models on x86 in the future.
> 
> I understand that having a larger set of static models would make
> expansions shorter. But I worry that by defining a complete set
> of static models on x86 would require extra maintenance work on
> the QEMU side with no visible benefit for libvirt.
> 
> I would like to hear from libvirt developers what they think. I
> still don't know what they plan to use the type=static expansion
> results for.

Currently we are mostly interested in the expansion of the "host" CPU
model. We're fine with the expansion based on the "basic" static model
with no features. Returning some real model instead of "basic" would be
OK as long as it would be one of the existing CPU models. Adding special
static models, such as Broadwell-base would actually be a complication
since we would need to provide some translation to the existing models
for backward compatibility. I'd appreciate if we could avoid doing this.

Jirka

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-12-16 16:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-02 21:17 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.9 00/17] target-i386: Implement query-cpu-model-expansion Eduardo Habkost
2016-12-02 21:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.9 01/17] qmp: Report QOM type name on query-cpu-definitions Eduardo Habkost
2016-12-02 21:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.9 02/17] qemu.py: Make logging optional Eduardo Habkost
2016-12-02 21:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.9 03/17] qtest.py: Support QTEST_LOG environment variable Eduardo Habkost
2016-12-02 21:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.9 04/17] qtest.py: make logging optional Eduardo Habkost
2016-12-02 21:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.9 05/17] qtest.py: Make 'binary' parameter optional Eduardo Habkost
2016-12-02 21:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.9 06/17] tests: Add rules to non-gtester qtest test cases Eduardo Habkost
2016-12-02 21:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.9 07/17] target-i386: Reorganize and document CPUID initialization steps Eduardo Habkost
2016-12-02 21:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.9 08/17] target-i386: Support "-cpu host" on TCG too Eduardo Habkost
2016-12-02 21:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.9 09/17] target-i386: Move "host" properties to base class Eduardo Habkost
2016-12-02 21:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.9 10/17] target-i386: Allow short strings to be used as vendor ID Eduardo Habkost
2016-12-02 21:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.9 11/17] target-i386: Remove AMD feature flag aliases from Opteron models Eduardo Habkost
2016-12-02 21:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.9 12/17] target-i386: Return migration-safe field on query-cpu-definitions Eduardo Habkost
2016-12-02 21:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.9 13/17] cpu: Support comma escaping when parsing -cpu Eduardo Habkost
2016-12-02 21:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.9 14/17] qapi: add static/migration-safe info to query-cpu-model-expansion Eduardo Habkost
2016-12-13  9:47   ` Markus Armbruster
2016-12-13 12:46     ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-12-02 21:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.9 15/17] target-i386: Define static "base" CPU model Eduardo Habkost
2016-12-05 18:18   ` David Hildenbrand
2016-12-05 23:57     ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-12-06  9:32       ` David Hildenbrand
2016-12-06 12:43         ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-12-16 16:02       ` Jiri Denemark [this message]
2016-12-20 16:49         ` David Hildenbrand
2016-12-02 21:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.9 16/17] tests: query-cpu-model-test.py test code Eduardo Habkost
2016-12-02 21:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.9 17/17] target-i386: Implement query-cpu-model-expansion QMP command Eduardo Habkost
2016-12-13 10:16   ` Markus Armbruster
2016-12-13 12:55     ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-12-13 19:20       ` Markus Armbruster
2016-12-13 21:11         ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-12-05  9:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] [PATCH for-2.9 00/17] target-i386: Implement query-cpu-model-expansion no-reply
2016-12-05 15:15 ` [Qemu-devel] " David Hildenbrand
2016-12-05 17:11   ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-12-05 18:13     ` David Hildenbrand
2016-12-05 23:45       ` Eduardo Habkost

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