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From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: "Gonglei (Arei)" <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	longpeng <longpeng2@huawei.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	QEMU-DEV <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Wubin (H)" <wu.wubin@huawei.com>,
	"Zhoujian (jay, Euler)" <jianjay.zhou@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Question about add AF_ALG backend for virtio-crypto
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:30:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170110133019.GJ27720@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <33183CC9F5247A488A2544077AF19020DA182B4A@DGGEMA505-MBX.china.huawei.com>

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 12:17:48PM +0000, Gonglei (Arei) wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 01:43:10PM +0000, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 03:04:55PM +0800, Longpeng (Mike) wrote:
> > > > > > > > I'm one of Gonglei's virtio-crypto project members, and we plan to
> > add a
> > > > > > AF_ALG
> > > > > > > > backend for virtio-crypto(there's only builtin-backend currently).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I found that Catalin, Paolo and Stefan had discussed about this in
> > 2015
> > > > > > > > (http://www.spinics.net/lists/kvm/msg115457.html), but it seems
> > that
> > > > > > Catalin
> > > > > > > > didn't do it, so I'm confuse about wether it is need to add a AF_ALG
> > > > > > backend.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Do you have any suggestion? Thanks :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have no objections to an AF_ALG backend in QEMU.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rather than do another backend for virtio-crypto, IMHO, we should have
> > > > > > an AF_ALG impl of the crypto/ APIs. That way any potential performance
> > > > > > benefits will enhance our LUKS encryption code too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > According to the currently schemas of crypto/ APIs, we can't choose the
> > > > > specific backend dynamically. This is a limitation for virtio-crypto
> > > > > device I think.
> > > >
> > > > Do we really need to be able to choose the backend explicitly. If the AF_ALG
> > > > backend is faster, why would you simply not use that automatically if it is
> > > > available.
> > >
> > > Can we realize the purpose based on the crypto/ APIs? IIUC the crypto
> > > subsystem chooses a backend during the building according to the specific
> > priority,
> > > nettle > gcrypt > cipher-builtin.
> > >
> > > If we add an AF_ALG implementation for crypto subsystem, shall we set it
> > > as the highest priority? If so, other backends won't be used since AF_ALG
> > > is always available. If not, how can we use AF_ALG backend for crypto/ API?
> > >
> > > Please correct me if I'm missing something.
> > 
> > While AF_ALG has been available for a while, not all features have. For
> > example AEAD support was only added in kernel 4.1
> > 
> OK.
> 
> > So if we had AF_ALG in QEMU, we would have to have a stacked impl, where
> > we try AF_ALG and then fallback to the current code when QEMU runs on a
> > kernel lacking the feature needed.
> > 
> It makes sense though the implementation will be more complicate
> since the code should identify the different error codes are returned
> by AF_ALG APIs.
> 
> > We could potentially also have a global arg to switch backends e.g.
> > 
> >  -crypto-backend [afalg|builtin]
> > 
> So the backend here is not the cryptodev backend?

No, it would apply to the crypto/ APIs, so it affects all users of those
APIs not just cryptodev


Regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-10 13:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-09  7:04 [Qemu-devel] Question about add AF_ALG backend for virtio-crypto Longpeng (Mike)
2017-01-09 13:43 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-01-09 16:25   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-01-10  9:03     ` Gonglei (Arei)
2017-01-10 10:03       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-01-10 11:36         ` Gonglei (Arei)
2017-01-10 12:03           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-01-10 12:17             ` Gonglei (Arei)
2017-01-10 13:30               ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2017-02-08 10:46                 ` Longpeng (Mike)
2017-02-08 10:53                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-02-09  2:58                     ` Longpeng (Mike)
2017-02-09 10:11                       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-02-09 11:03                         ` Longpeng (Mike)
2017-02-09 11:22                           ` Daniel P. Berrange

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