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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, tianyu.lan@intel.com,
	kevin.tian@intel.com, mst@redhat.com, jan.kiszka@siemens.com,
	jasowang@redhat.com, bd.aviv@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v3 13/14] intel_iommu: allow dynamic switch of IOMMU region
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 15:49:44 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170118074944.GR30108@pxdev.xzpeter.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170117084604.2b1f5e50@t450s.home>

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 08:46:04AM -0700, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 22:00:00 +0800
> Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 12:53:57PM -0700, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > > On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:06:39 +0800
> > > Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >   
> > > > This is preparation work to finally enabled dynamic switching ON/OFF for
> > > > VT-d protection. The old VT-d codes is using static IOMMU address space,
> > > > and that won't satisfy vfio-pci device listeners.
> > > > 
> > > > Let me explain.
> > > > 
> > > > vfio-pci devices depend on the memory region listener and IOMMU replay
> > > > mechanism to make sure the device mapping is coherent with the guest
> > > > even if there are domain switches. And there are two kinds of domain
> > > > switches:
> > > > 
> > > >   (1) switch from domain A -> B
> > > >   (2) switch from domain A -> no domain (e.g., turn DMAR off)
> > > > 
> > > > Case (1) is handled by the context entry invalidation handling by the
> > > > VT-d replay logic. What the replay function should do here is to replay
> > > > the existing page mappings in domain B.  
> > > 
> > > There's really 2 steps here, right?  Invalidate A, replay B.  I think
> > > the code handles this, but I want to make sure.  We don't want to end
> > > up with a superset of both A & B.  
> > 
> > First of all, this discussion should be beyond this patch's scope,
> > since this patch is currently only handling the case when guest
> > disables DMAR in general.
> > 
> > Then, my understanding for above question: when we do A -> B domain
> > switch, guest will not send specific context entry invalidations for
> > A, but will for sure send one when context entry is ready for B. In
> > that sense, IMO we don't have a clear "two steps", only one, which is
> > the latter "replay B". We do correct unmap based on the PSIs
> > (page-selective invalidations) of A when guest unmaps the pages in A.
> > 
> > So, for the use case of nested device assignment (which is the goal of
> > this series for now):
> > 
> > - L1 guest put device D1,D2,... of L2 guest into domain A
> > - L1 guest map the L2 memory into L1 address space (L2GPA -> L1GPA)
> > - ... (L2 guest runs, until it stops running)
> > - L1 guest unmap all the pages in domain A
> > - L1 guest move device D1,D2,... of L2 guest outside domain A
> > 
> > This series should work for above, since before any device leaves its
> > domain, the domain will be clean and without unmapped pages.
> > 
> > However, if we have the following scenario (which I don't know whether
> > this's achievable):
> > 
> > - guest iommu domain A has device D1, D2
> > - guest iommu domain B has device D3
> > - move device D2 from domain A into B
> > 
> > Here when D2 move from A to B, IIUC our current Linux IOMMU driver
> > code will not send any PSI (page-selected invalidations) for D2 or
> > domain A because domain A still has device in it, guest should only
> > send a context entry invalidation for device D2, telling that D2 has
> > switched to domain B. In that case, I am not sure whether current
> > series can work properly, and IMHO we may need to have the domain
> > knowledge in VT-d emulation code (while we don't have it yet) in the
> > future to further support this kind of domain switches.
> 
> This is a serious issue that needs to be resolved.  The context entry
> invalidation when D2 is switched from A->B must unmap anything from
> domain A before the replay of domain B.  Your example is easily
> achieved, for instance what if domain A is the SI (static identity)
> domain for the L1 guest, domain B is the device assignment domain for
> the L2 guest with current device D3.  The user hot adds device D2 into
> the L2 guest moving it from the L1 SI domain to the device assignment
> domain.  vfio will not override existing mappings on replay, it will
> error, giving the L2 guest a device with access to the static identity
> mappings of the L1 host.  This isn't acceptable.
>  
> > > On the invalidation, a future optimization when disabling an entire
> > > memory region might also be to invalidate the entire range at once
> > > rather than each individual mapping within the range, which I think is
> > > what happens now, right?  
> > 
> > Right. IIUC this can be an enhancement to current page walk logic - we
> > can coalesce continuous IOTLB with same property and notify only once
> > for these coalesced entries.
> > 
> > Noted in my todo list.
> 
> A context entry invalidation as in the example above might make use of
> this to skip any sort of page walk logic, simply invalidate the entire
> address space.

Alex, I got one more thing to ask:

I was trying to invalidate the entire address space by sending a big
IOTLB notification to vfio-pci, which looks like:

  IOMMUTLBEntry entry = {
      .target_as = &address_space_memory,
      .iova = 0,
      .translated_addr = 0,
      .addr_mask = (1 << 63) - 1,
      .perm = IOMMU_NONE,     /* UNMAP */
  };

Then I feed this entry to vfio-pci IOMMU notifier.

However, this was blocked in vfio_iommu_map_notify(), with error:

  qemu-system-x86_64: iommu has granularity incompatible with target AS

Since we have:

  /*
   * The IOMMU TLB entry we have just covers translation through
   * this IOMMU to its immediate target.  We need to translate
   * it the rest of the way through to memory.
   */
  rcu_read_lock();
  mr = address_space_translate(&address_space_memory,
                               iotlb->translated_addr,
                               &xlat, &len, iotlb->perm & IOMMU_WO);
  if (!memory_region_is_ram(mr)) {
      error_report("iommu map to non memory area %"HWADDR_PRIx"",
                   xlat);
      goto out;
  }
  /*
   * Translation truncates length to the IOMMU page size,
   * check that it did not truncate too much.
   */
  if (len & iotlb->addr_mask) {
      error_report("iommu has granularity incompatible with target AS");
      goto out;
  }

In my case len == 0xa0000 (that's the translation result), and
iotlb->addr_mask == (1<<63)-1. So looks like the translation above
splitted the big region and a simple big UNMAP doesn't work for me.

Do you have any suggestion on how I can solve this? In what case will
we need the above address_space_translate()?

> 
> > >   
> > > > However for case (2), we don't want to replay any domain mappings - we
> > > > just need the default GPA->HPA mappings (the address_space_memory
> > > > mapping). And this patch helps on case (2) to build up the mapping
> > > > automatically by leveraging the vfio-pci memory listeners.  
> > > 
> > > Have you thought about using this address space switching to emulate
> > > ecap.PT?  ie. advertise hardware based passthrough so that the guest
> > > doesn't need to waste pagetable entries for a direct mapped, static
> > > identity domain.  
> > 
> > Kind of. Currently we still don't have iommu=pt for the emulated code.
> > We can achieve that by leveraging this patch.
> 
> Well, we have iommu=pt, but the L1 guest will implement this as a fully
> populated SI domain rather than as a bit in the context entry to do
> hardware direct translation.  Given the mapping overhead through vfio,
> the L1 guest will always want to use iommu=pt as dynamic mapping
> performance is going to be horrid.  Thanks,

I see, so we have iommu=pt in guest even VT-d emulation does not
provide that bit. Anyway, supporting ecap.pt is in my todo list.

Thanks,

-- peterx

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-18  7:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-13  3:06 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v3 00/14] VT-d: vfio enablement and misc enhances Peter Xu
2017-01-13  3:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v3 01/14] IOMMU: add option to enable VTD_CAP_CM to vIOMMU capility exposoed to guest Peter Xu
2017-01-20  8:32   ` Tian, Kevin
2017-01-20  8:54     ` Peter Xu
2017-01-20  8:59       ` Tian, Kevin
2017-01-20  9:11         ` Peter Xu
2017-01-20  9:20           ` Tian, Kevin
2017-01-20  9:30             ` Peter Xu
2017-01-20 15:42   ` Eric Blake
2017-01-22  2:32     ` Peter Xu
2017-01-13  3:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v3 02/14] intel_iommu: simplify irq region translation Peter Xu
2017-01-20  8:22   ` Tian, Kevin
2017-01-20  9:05     ` Peter Xu
2017-01-20  9:15       ` Tian, Kevin
2017-01-20  9:27         ` Peter Xu
2017-01-20  9:52           ` Tian, Kevin
2017-01-20 10:04             ` Peter Xu
2017-01-22  4:42               ` Tian, Kevin
2017-01-22  4:50                 ` Peter Xu
2017-01-13  3:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v3 03/14] intel_iommu: renaming gpa to iova where proper Peter Xu
2017-01-20  8:27   ` Tian, Kevin
2017-01-20  9:23     ` Peter Xu
2017-01-20  9:41       ` Tian, Kevin
2017-01-13  3:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v3 04/14] intel_iommu: fix trace for inv desc handling Peter Xu
2017-01-13  7:46   ` Jason Wang
2017-01-13  9:13     ` Peter Xu
2017-01-13  9:33       ` Jason Wang
2017-01-13  3:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v3 05/14] intel_iommu: fix trace for addr translation Peter Xu
2017-01-13  3:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v3 06/14] intel_iommu: vtd_slpt_level_shift check level Peter Xu
2017-01-13  3:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v3 07/14] memory: add section range info for IOMMU notifier Peter Xu
2017-01-13  7:55   ` Jason Wang
2017-01-13  9:23     ` Peter Xu
2017-01-13  9:37       ` Jason Wang
2017-01-13 10:22         ` Peter Xu
2017-01-13  3:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v3 08/14] memory: provide iommu_replay_all() Peter Xu
2017-01-13  3:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v3 09/14] memory: introduce memory_region_notify_one() Peter Xu
2017-01-13  7:58   ` Jason Wang
2017-01-16  7:08     ` Peter Xu
2017-01-16  7:38       ` Jason Wang
2017-01-13  3:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v3 10/14] memory: add MemoryRegionIOMMUOps.replay() callback Peter Xu
2017-01-13  3:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v3 11/14] intel_iommu: provide its own replay() callback Peter Xu
2017-01-13  9:26   ` Jason Wang
2017-01-16  7:31     ` Peter Xu
2017-01-16  7:47       ` Jason Wang
2017-01-16  7:59         ` Peter Xu
2017-01-16  8:03           ` Jason Wang
2017-01-16  8:06             ` Peter Xu
2017-01-16  8:23               ` Jason Wang
2017-01-13  3:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v3 12/14] intel_iommu: do replay when context invalidate Peter Xu
2017-01-16  5:53   ` Jason Wang
2017-01-16  7:43     ` Peter Xu
2017-01-16  7:52       ` Jason Wang
2017-01-16  8:02         ` Peter Xu
2017-01-16  8:18         ` Peter Xu
2017-01-16  8:28           ` Jason Wang
2017-01-13  3:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v3 13/14] intel_iommu: allow dynamic switch of IOMMU region Peter Xu
2017-01-16  6:20   ` Jason Wang
2017-01-16  7:50     ` Peter Xu
2017-01-16  8:01       ` Jason Wang
2017-01-16  8:12         ` Peter Xu
2017-01-16  8:25           ` Jason Wang
2017-01-16  8:32             ` Peter Xu
2017-01-16 16:25               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-01-17 14:53                 ` Peter Xu
2017-01-16 19:53   ` Alex Williamson
2017-01-17 14:00     ` Peter Xu
2017-01-17 15:46       ` Alex Williamson
2017-01-18  7:49         ` Peter Xu [this message]
2017-01-19  8:20           ` Peter Xu
2017-01-13  3:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v3 14/14] intel_iommu: enable vfio devices Peter Xu
2017-01-16  6:30   ` Jason Wang
2017-01-16  9:18     ` Peter Xu
2017-01-16  9:54       ` Jason Wang
2017-01-17 14:45         ` Peter Xu
2017-01-18  3:10           ` Jason Wang
2017-01-18  8:11             ` Peter Xu
2017-01-18  8:36               ` Jason Wang
2017-01-18  8:46                 ` Peter Xu
2017-01-18  9:38                   ` Tian, Kevin
2017-01-18 10:06                     ` Jason Wang
2017-01-19  3:32                       ` Peter Xu
2017-01-19  3:36                         ` Jason Wang
2017-01-19  3:16                     ` Peter Xu
2017-01-19  6:22                       ` Tian, Kevin
2017-01-19  9:38                         ` Peter Xu
2017-01-19  6:44                     ` Liu, Yi L
2017-01-19  7:02                       ` Jason Wang
2017-01-19  7:02                       ` Peter Xu
2017-01-16  9:20     ` Peter Xu
2017-01-13 15:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC v3 00/14] VT-d: vfio enablement and misc enhances Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-01-14  2:59   ` Peter Xu
2017-01-17 15:07     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-01-18  7:34       ` Peter Xu

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