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From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 00/15] Convert QCow[2] to QCryptoBlock & add LUKS support
Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 17:18:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170125171853.GF29006@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d13ff880-3ce4-1b38-3c23-720768d79593@redhat.com>

On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 05:41:59PM +0100, Max Reitz wrote:
> On 25.01.2017 17:29, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> > On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 04:58:32PM +0100, Max Reitz wrote:
> >> On 03.01.2017 19:27, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> >>> This series is a continuation of previous work to support LUKS in
> >>> QEMU. The existing merged code supports LUKS as a standalone
> >>> driver which can be layered over/under any other QEMU block device
> >>> driver. This works well when using LUKS over protocol drivers (file,
> >>> rbd, iscsi, etc, etc), but has some downsides when combined with
> >>> format drivers like qcow2.
> >>
> >> When trying out whether compressed images are actually encrypted (which
> >> they are not, as I wrote in my last reply to patch 12), I noticed that
> >> the user interface still has some flaws:
> > 
> > The original code explicitly forbids this combination
> > 
> >  "qemu-img: Compression and encryption not supported at the same time"
> > 
> > but I guess we lost the error check due to changing to use
> > encryption-format as the option name
> 
> Yes, not supporting it is completely fine, but qemu-img should refuse
> that combination then (or at least warn about it).

Yep, I'll make sure the existing error message covers this scenario.

> 
> >> One is that you actually can't convert to encrypted images any more, or
> >> if you can, it doesn't seem obvious to me:
> >>
> >> $ ./qemu-img convert -O qcow2 --object secret,id=sec0,data=12345 \
> >>     -o encryption-format=luks,luks-key-secret=sec0 \
> >>     foo.qcow2 bar.qcow2
> >> qemu-img: Could not open 'bar.qcow2': Parameter 'key-secret' is required
> >> for cipher
> >>
> >> The issue is that you have to specify the key secret as a runtime
> >> parameter in addition to the creation option. Not only is that a bit
> >> cumbersome, but it's also impossible because --image-opts doesn't work
> >> for the output image.
> > 
> > Yeah, this is a problem I've not figured out a solutiuon for yet - it
> > also affects the previously merged bare luks format code.
> > 
> > Somehow qemu-img needs to know which create options are also required
> > to be passed when opening the newly created image.
> > 
> > Perhaps the BlockDriver struct needs a new callback like
> > 
> >   bdrv_create_opts_to_runtime_opts(QemuOpts *copts, QemuOpts *ropts);
> 
> Yeah, it's tough. For the moment, I'd be fine with qemu-img convert
> working at all, though, even if that means having to specify the secret
> twice. But I don't know if fixing the --image-opts issue is any easier
> -- maybe we can allow image-opts syntax for the targets when -n is
> given? Then you'd have to call qemu-img create and qemu-img convert
> separately (or call qemu-img convert twice, once without -n (which
> successfully creates the image but then fails when trying to open it)
> and once without...), but at least there'd be a way to make it work.
> 
> I have to admit that I personally wouldn't mind a hack in qemu-img
> convert like "copy every option ending in 'key-secret' to the runtime
> opts" too much. But I don't know how much that might infuriate some
> other people.
> 
> It's ugly, yes, but it would work perfectly well for now. I don't think
> it would hurt us in the future. If other parameters appear that we have
> to copy over, we can still implement the well-engineered solution.

This turns out to be pretty trivial to implement. So although it is
a bit ugly, it feels like reasonable approach to take in the short
term.

Regards,
Daniel
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      reply	other threads:[~2017-01-25 17:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-03 18:27 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 00/15] Convert QCow[2] to QCryptoBlock & add LUKS support Daniel P. Berrange
2017-01-03 18:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 01/15] block: expose crypto option names / defs to other drivers Daniel P. Berrange
2017-01-03 19:46   ` Eric Blake
2017-01-16 19:42   ` Max Reitz
2017-01-03 18:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 02/15] block: add ability to set a prefix for opt names Daniel P. Berrange
2017-01-16 19:31   ` Max Reitz
2017-01-24 12:15     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-01-03 18:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 03/15] qcow: document another weakness of qcow AES encryption Daniel P. Berrange
2017-01-16 19:37   ` Max Reitz
2017-01-24 12:11     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-01-03 18:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 04/15] qcow: require image size to be > 1 for new images Daniel P. Berrange
2017-01-16 19:41   ` Max Reitz
2017-01-24 12:14     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-01-03 18:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 05/15] iotests: skip 042 with qcow which dosn't support zero sized images Daniel P. Berrange
2017-01-16 19:42   ` Max Reitz
2017-01-03 18:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 06/15] iotests: skip 048 with qcow which doesn't support resize Daniel P. Berrange
2017-01-16 19:48   ` Max Reitz
2017-01-03 18:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 07/15] iotests: fix 097 when run with qcow Daniel P. Berrange
2017-01-16 20:04   ` Max Reitz
2017-01-17  9:59     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-01-18 12:44       ` Max Reitz
2017-01-03 18:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 08/15] qcow: make encrypt_sectors encrypt in place Daniel P. Berrange
2017-01-16 20:25   ` Max Reitz
2017-01-24 12:21     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-01-03 18:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 09/15] qcow: convert QCow to use QCryptoBlock for encryption Daniel P. Berrange
2017-01-16 21:16   ` Max Reitz
2017-01-03 18:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 10/15] qcow2: make qcow2_encrypt_sectors encrypt in place Daniel P. Berrange
2017-01-03 18:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 11/15] qcow2: convert QCow2 to use QCryptoBlock for encryption Daniel P. Berrange
2017-01-18 18:13   ` Max Reitz
2017-01-19  9:39     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-01-21 19:07   ` Max Reitz
2017-01-24 12:33     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-01-03 18:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 12/15] qcow2: add support for LUKS encryption format Daniel P. Berrange
2017-01-21 18:57   ` Max Reitz
2017-01-24 13:58     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-01-25 15:45       ` Max Reitz
2017-01-03 18:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 13/15] iotests: enable tests 134 and 158 to work with qcow (v1) Daniel P. Berrange
2017-01-21 19:12   ` Max Reitz
2017-01-03 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 14/15] block: rip out all traces of password prompting Daniel P. Berrange
2017-01-21 19:17   ` Max Reitz
2017-01-03 18:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 15/15] block: remove all encryption handling APIs Daniel P. Berrange
2017-01-21 19:22   ` Max Reitz
2017-01-24 12:49     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-01-25 15:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 00/15] Convert QCow[2] to QCryptoBlock & add LUKS support Max Reitz
2017-01-25 16:29   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-01-25 16:41     ` Max Reitz
2017-01-25 17:18       ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]

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