From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: "Denis V. Lunev" <den@openvz.org>
Cc: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/1] block: add missed BDRV_O_NOCACHE when block device is opened without file
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 10:53:56 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170130095356.GA3463@noname.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1251c8d7-3862-2cb9-a3c8-aa6d3c8e3924@openvz.org>
Am 25.01.2017 um 20:44 hat Denis V. Lunev geschrieben:
> This is what I have exactly started from:
> http://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/7Server/en/RHEV/SRPMS/qemu-kvm-rhev-2.6.0-27.el7.src.rpm
>
> This package starts VM well for the above mentioned configuration:
>
> <disk type='file' device='cdrom'>
> <driver name='qemu' type='raw' cache='none' io='native'/>
> <target dev='sdb' bus='scsi'/>
> <readonly/>
> </disk>
>
> but the problem comes later at 'change' moment. It reports
>
> 'Details: internal error: unable to execute QEMU command 'change':
> aio=native was specified, but it requires cache.direct=on, which
> was not specified.)'
>
>
> Thus partial solution implemented by the RedHat is really
> partial and does not work at the second stage. I have started from
That's a downstream problem that is probably worth fixing, but of course
not with an upstream patch. Can you create a Bugzilla for this and
assign it to Max, John or me? (Putting the rest of us into the CC list)
> the problem for me is that each clone() call is costly and counts. That
> is why we are trying to avoid it whenever possible. That is why 'native'
> mode is MUCH better. Also it would be very nice not to use cached
> IO, which is very good for memory overcommit situations.
>
> Here I am fighting not with the performance, which does not make
> any real sense, but with a memory footprint.
This makes sense generally, but for empty CD-ROMs, no I/O request is
ever made, so neither Linux AIO nor the thread pool is used.
You only get a specific cache/aio mode once you actually insert a block
driver node to the virtual device.
> > Second, all this patch does is revert some changes done by commit
> > 91a097e7478940483e76d52217f05bc05b98d5a5, which was very deliberate.
> >
> > Third, you may then be asking for the recommended way to put an
> > aio=native medium into a CD-ROM drive. Good thing you ask, because we
> > have a way that we want to recommend but can't because it's still
> > considered experimental:
> >
> > The BDS is added using blockdev-add, with all of the appropriate caching
> > and aio options. Then it's inserted into the drive using the
> > x-blockdev-insert-medium command, and the drive is closed using
> > blockdev-close-tray.
> the problem, again, is that with x-blockdev-insert-medium I can not
> deal with block driver options, or may be I am missing something.
The thing that you insert with x-blockdev-insert-medium is a block
driver node that you presumably created with blockdev-add, so you did
have a chance to specify whichever options you want.
Kevin
prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-01-30 9:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-01-25 16:42 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/1] block: add missed BDRV_O_NOCACHE when block device is opened without file Denis V. Lunev
2017-01-25 17:59 ` Max Reitz
2017-01-25 19:44 ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-01-28 16:23 ` Max Reitz
2017-01-30 8:31 ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-01-30 9:53 ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
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