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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: "Denis V. Lunev" <den@openvz.org>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Anton Nefedov" <anton.nefedov@virtuozzo.com>,
	"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] char: chardevice hotswap
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 16:43:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170209164358.GF2384@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170209160922.GC26192@redhat.com>

* Daniel P. Berrange (berrange@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 09, 2017 at 06:25:33PM +0300, Denis V. Lunev wrote:
> > From: Anton Nefedov <anton.nefedov@virtuozzo.com>
> > 
> > This patch adds a possibility to change a char device without a frontend
> > removal.
> > 
> > Ideally, it would have to happen transparently to a frontend, i.e. frontend
> > would continue its regular operation. However, backends are not stateles
> > and are set up by the frontends via qemu_chr_fe_<> functions, and it's not
> > (generally) possible to replay that setup entirely in a backend code, as
> > different chardevs respond to the setup calls differently, so do frontends
> > work differently basing on those setup responses. Moreover, some frontend
> > can generally get and save the backend pointer (qemu_chr_fe_get_driver()),
> > and it will become invalid after backend change.
> > 
> > So, a frontend which would like to support chardev hotswap has to register
> > a "backend change" handler, and redo its backend setup there.
> > 
> > Write path can be used by multiple threads and thus protected with
> > chr_write_lock. So hotswap also has to be protected so write functions
> > won't access a backend being replaced.
> > 
> > 3. Hotswap function can be called from e.g. a read handler of a monitor
> > socket. This can cause troubles so it's safer to defer execution to
> > a bottom-half. (however, it means we cannot return some of the errors
> > synchronously - but most of them we can)
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Anton Nefedov <anton.nefedov@virtuozzo.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Denis V. Lunev <den@openvz.org>
> > CC: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
> > CC: "Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>
> > CC: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
> > ---
> >  chardev/char.c        | 161 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++---
> >  hmp.c                 |  14 +++++
> 
> IIRC we required new commands to have a QMP addition and the new HMP
> function written by invoking the QMP handler.
> 
> 
> > diff --git a/hmp.c b/hmp.c
> > index 2bc4f06..70252df 100644
> > --- a/hmp.c
> > +++ b/hmp.c
> > @@ -1522,6 +1522,20 @@ void hmp_change(Monitor *mon, const QDict *qdict)
> >              }
> >          }
> >          qmp_change("vnc", target, !!arg, arg, &err);
> > +    } else if (strcmp(device, "chardev") == 0) {
> > +        QemuOpts *opts;
> > +
> > +        if (arg == NULL) {
> > +            arg = "";
> > +        }
> > +        opts = qemu_opts_parse_noisily(qemu_find_opts("chardev"), arg, true);
> > +        if (opts == NULL) {
> > +            error_setg(&err, "Parsing chardev args failed");
> > +        } else {
> > +            qemu_opts_set_id(opts, g_strdup(target));
> > +            qemu_chr_change(opts, &err);
> > +            qemu_opts_del(opts);
> > +        }
> 
> The hmp 'change' command is/was a huge mistake. We shouldn't continue
> to add stuff to it - create dedicated commands for any new functionality
> instead of over-loading it one command todo many different things.

Hmm.
There's an experimental qmp command - x-blockdev-change (see 7f821597 )
for a failover for block use.

I did post an HMP equivalent https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2015-12/msg02864.html
which hasn't gone in yet.

So something similar for char might be what you want.

I had wondered if a T adapter for chardevs would be useful in a few situations,
and maybe it would be here; i.e. something where output is sent
to all the outputs, and input is aggregated from the inputs.

Dave

> 
> Regards,
> Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-09 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-09 15:25 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] chardevice hotswap Denis V. Lunev
2017-02-09 15:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] char: " Denis V. Lunev
2017-02-09 16:09   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-02-09 16:43     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2017-02-09 15:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] virtio-console: chardev hotswap support Denis V. Lunev
2017-02-09 15:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/2] chardevice hotswap no-reply

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