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From: "Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>
To: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
Cc: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	"Lan, Tianyu" <tianyu.lan@intel.com>,
	"Peng,	Chao P" <chao.p.peng@intel.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"Hao, Xudong" <xudong.hao@intel.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Sun, Yi Y" <yi.y.sun@intel.com>,
	"Pan, Jacob jun" <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>,
	Ashok Raj <ashok.raj@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC Design Doc v3] Enable Shared Virtual Memory feature in pass-through scenarios
Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2017 13:30:23 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170301213023.fv5utdpbh4zvsxdy@araj-mobl1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170301210938.GE9043@char.us.ORACLE.com>

On Wed, Mar 01, 2017 at 04:09:38PM -0500, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
> .snip..
> > 
> > No. SVM is purely about sharing CPU address space with device. Command
> > submission is still through kernel driver which controls rings (with SVM then
> > you can put VA into those commands). There are other vendor specific 
> > features to enable direct user space submission which is orthogonal to SVM.
> 
> Apologies for my ignorance but how is this beneficial? As in
> currently you would put in bus addresses on the ring, but now you
> can put VA addresses.
> 
> The obvious benefit I see is that you omit the DMA ops which means there is
> less of 'lookup' (VA->bus address) in software - but I would have thought this
> would be negligible performance impact? And now the IOMMU alongside with
> the CPU would do this lookup.
> 
> Or are there some other improvements in this?
Other benefits include,

- Application can simply pass its pointers to the SVM capable devices. which
  means no memory registration overhead to get IO Virtual Addresses. 
- No need to pin memory for DMA, since the devices can handle faults and
  can request pages to be paged-in on demand.
> 
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Kevin
> _______________________________________________
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      reply	other threads:[~2017-03-01 21:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-30  8:49 [Qemu-devel] [RFC Design Doc v3] Enable Shared Virtual Memory feature in pass-through scenarios Liu, Yi L
2017-02-28 22:07 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-03-01  6:51   ` Tian, Kevin
2017-03-01 21:09     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2017-03-01 21:30       ` Raj, Ashok [this message]

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