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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, mreitz@redhat.com,
	jsnow@redhat.com, famz@redhat.com, den@openvz.org,
	stefanha@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] blk: fix aio context loss on media change
Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2017 16:02:10 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170315150210.GL4030@noname.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bb192d-b910-5ac2-886b-fefeb4a2ec4d@redhat.com>

Am 15.03.2017 um 15:43 hat Paolo Bonzini geschrieben:
> On 15/03/2017 15:30, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > Am 15.03.2017 um 14:39 hat Paolo Bonzini geschrieben:
> >> On 15/03/2017 12:03, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> >>> But we discussed this earlier, and while I'm not completely sure any
> >>> more about the details, I seem to remeber that Paolo said something
> >>> along the lines that AioContext is going away anyway and building the
> >>> code for proper management would be wasted time.
> >>
> >> AioContext is going to stay, but everybody will be able to send
> >> operations to a BB/BDS from any AioContext.  The BDS AioContext will
> >> only matter for network devices, since they have to attach the file
> >> descriptor handlers somewhere.  For files it won't matter at all because
> >> you can use multiple Linux AIO context or thread pools at the same time.
> > 
> > Should the iothread option then become a -blockdev option rather than a
> > -device one?
> 
> Well, both.  The device also needs an I/O thread to attach its ioeventfd
> handler.  And it makes sense to use the -device I/O thread if -blockdev
> specified none.

Right, that makes sense. I just wasn't aware until now that we would get
a per-node option, so that's good to know.

> >> There should be a policy on which BB sets AioContext on the BDS (e.g.
> >> only the device does it), but apart from that, it should not be an issue.
> > 
> > We don't know which BBs are going to be attached. We don't necessarily
> > have a device at all, or we could have two of them.
> 
> Wow, can we really have two? :-O

What would prevent you from doing this? The whole blockdev work was
about making the block layer more flexible, so now we have this
flexibility of attaching more or less anything to anything (unless op
blockers prevent it, which is why they are important for actually
supporting blockdev).

> > Though maybe we should try to keep a BDS and its children in the same
> > AioContext anyway if that's possible? Will it make a difference?
> 
> Everything can make sense---but yes, keeping the whole hierarchy in the
> same AioContext makes sense more often.

So I take this to mean that it does make a difference. :-)

If we want to keep users and their child nodes in the same AioContext by
default, we'll probably still need to implement all of the callbacks
that we would need for proper AioContext management today.

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2017-03-15 15:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-14 17:11 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] blk: fix aio context loss on media change Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-03-15 11:03 ` Kevin Wolf
2017-03-15 11:14   ` Fam Zheng
2017-03-15 12:06     ` Kevin Wolf
2017-03-15 13:13       ` Fam Zheng
2017-03-15 14:04         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-03-15 14:42           ` Fam Zheng
2017-03-15 13:39   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-15 14:30     ` Kevin Wolf
2017-03-15 14:43       ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-15 15:02         ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2017-03-15 15:09           ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-15 15:30             ` Kevin Wolf

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