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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
	jjherne@linux.vnet.ibm.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>, Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/5] cpu: throttle: fix throttle time slice
Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2017 16:44:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170404154441.GH2147@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3171819.10011849.1490989617665.JavaMail.zimbra@redhat.com>

* Paolo Bonzini (pbonzini@redhat.com) wrote:
> 
> 
> > > So I'm inclined _not_ to take your patch.  One possibility could be to
> > > do the following:
> > > 
> > > - for throttling between 0% and 80%, use the current algorithm.  At 66%,
> > > the CPU will work for 10 ms and sleep for 40 ms.
> > > 
> > > - for throttling above 80% adapt your algorithm to have a variable
> > > timeslice, going from 50 ms at 66% to 100 ms at 100%.  This way, the CPU
> > > time will shrink below 10 ms and the sleep time will grow.
> 
> Oops, all the 66% should be 80%.
> 
> > It seems odd to have a threshold like that on something that's supposedly
> > a linear scale.
> 
> I futzed a bit with the threshold until the first derivative of the CPU
> time was zero at the threshold, and the result was 80%.  That is, if you
> switch before 80%, the CPU time slice can grow to more than 10 ms right
> after the threshold, and then start shrinking.
> 
> > > It looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/lyFie04.png
> > > 
> > > So at 99% the timeslice will be 97.5 ms; the CPU will work for 975 us
> > > and sleep for the rest (10x more than with just your patch).  But I'm
> > > not sure it's really worth it.
> > 
> > Can you really run a CPU for 975us ?
> 
> It's 2-3 million clock cycles, should be doable.

I wasn't really worrying about the CPU running, I was more worried
about timer resolution in stopping it.  If you're timer isn't that accurate
in starting/stopping the CPU then the errors might be so large as to
make that a bit odd.

Dave

> Paolo
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-04 15:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-27  7:21 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/5] several migrations related patches Peter Xu
2017-03-27  7:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/5] migration: set current_active_state once Peter Xu
2017-03-31 18:50   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-03-27  7:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/5] migration: rename max_size to threshold_size Peter Xu
2017-03-31 18:59   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-04-01  7:16     ` Peter Xu
2017-03-27  7:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/5] hmp: info migrate_capability format tunes Peter Xu
2017-03-31 19:01   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-03-27  7:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/5] hmp: info migrate_parameters " Peter Xu
2017-03-31 19:02   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-03-27  7:21 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/5] cpu: throttle: fix throttle time slice Peter Xu
2017-03-27  7:40   ` Peter Xu
2017-03-31 16:38   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-31 19:13     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-03-31 19:46       ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-04-04 15:44         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2017-04-01  7:52     ` Peter Xu

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