From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Cc: Alberto Garcia <berto@igalia.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org,
Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Proposed qcow2 extension: subcluster allocation
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 15:01:29 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170407130129.GE4716@noname.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170407122021.GP13602@stefanha-x1.localdomain>
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Am 07.04.2017 um 14:20 hat Stefan Hajnoczi geschrieben:
> On Thu, Apr 06, 2017 at 06:01:48PM +0300, Alberto Garcia wrote:
> > Here are the results (subcluster size in brackets):
> >
> > |-----------------+----------------+-----------------+-------------------|
> > | cluster size | subclusters=on | subclusters=off | Max L2 cache size |
> > |-----------------+----------------+-----------------+-------------------|
> > | 2 MB (256 KB) | 440 IOPS | 100 IOPS | 160 KB (*) |
> > | 512 KB (64 KB) | 1000 IOPS | 300 IOPS | 640 KB |
> > | 64 KB (8 KB) | 3000 IOPS | 1000 IOPS | 5 MB |
> > | 32 KB (4 KB) | 12000 IOPS | 1300 IOPS | 10 MB |
> > | 4 KB (512 B) | 100 IOPS | 100 IOPS | 80 MB |
> > |-----------------+----------------+-----------------+-------------------|
> >
> > (*) The L2 cache must be a multiple of the cluster
> > size, so in this case it must be 2MB. On the table
> > I chose to show how much of those 2MB are actually
> > used so you can compare it with the other cases.
> >
> > Some comments about the results:
> >
> > - For the 64KB, 512KB and 2MB cases, having subclusters increases
> > write performance roughly by three. This happens because for each
> > cluster allocation there's less data to copy from the backing
> > image. For the same reason, the smaller the cluster, the better the
> > performance. As expected, 64KB clusters with no subclusters perform
> > roughly the same as 512KB clusters with 64KB subclusters.
> >
> > - The 32KB case is the most interesting one. Without subclusters it's
> > not very different from the 64KB case, but having a subcluster with
> > the same size of the I/O block eliminates the need for COW entirely
> > and the performance skyrockets (10 times faster!).
> >
> > - 4KB is however very slow. I attribute this to the fact that the
> > cluster size is so small that a new cluster needs to be allocated
> > for every single write and its refcount updated accordingly. The L2
> > and refcount tables are also so small that they are too inefficient
> > and need to grow all the time.
> >
> > Here are the results when writing to an empty 40GB qcow2 image with no
> > backing file. The numbers are of course different but as you can see
> > the patterns are similar:
> >
> > |-----------------+----------------+-----------------+-------------------|
> > | cluster size | subclusters=on | subclusters=off | Max L2 cache size |
> > |-----------------+----------------+-----------------+-------------------|
> > | 2 MB (256 KB) | 1200 IOPS | 255 IOPS | 160 KB |
> > | 512 KB (64 KB) | 3000 IOPS | 700 IOPS | 640 KB |
> > | 64 KB (8 KB) | 7200 IOPS | 3300 IOPS | 5 MB |
> > | 32 KB (4 KB) | 12300 IOPS | 4200 IOPS | 10 MB |
> > | 4 KB (512 B) | 100 IOPS | 100 IOPS | 80 MB |
> > |-----------------+----------------+-----------------+-------------------|
>
> I don't understand why subclusters=on performs so much better when
> there's no backing file. Is qcow2 zeroing out the 64 KB cluster with
> subclusters=off?
>
> It ought to just write the 4 KB data when a new cluster is touched.
> Therefore the performance should be very similar to subclusters=on.
No, it can't do that. Nobody guarantees that the cluster contains only
zeros when we don't write them. It could have been used before and then
either freed on a qcow2 level or we could be sitting on a block device
rather than a file.
One optimisation that would be possible even without subclusters is
making only a single I/O request to write the whole cluster instead of
three of them (COW head, guest write, COW tail). Without a backing file,
this improved performance almost to the level of rewrites, but it
couldn't solve the problem when a backing file was used (which is the
main use case for qcow2), so I never got to submitting a patch for it.
Kevin
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Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-04-06 15:01 [Qemu-devel] [RFC] Proposed qcow2 extension: subcluster allocation Alberto Garcia
2017-04-06 16:40 ` Eric Blake
2017-04-07 8:49 ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-07 12:41 ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-07 14:24 ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-21 21:09 ` [Qemu-devel] proposed qcow2 extension: cluster reservations [was: " Eric Blake
2017-04-22 17:56 ` Max Reitz
2017-04-24 11:45 ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-24 12:46 ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-07 12:20 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-04-07 12:24 ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-07 13:01 ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2017-04-10 15:32 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-04-07 17:10 ` Max Reitz
2017-04-10 8:42 ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-10 15:03 ` Max Reitz
2017-04-11 12:56 ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-11 14:04 ` Max Reitz
2017-04-11 14:31 ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-11 14:45 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Eric Blake
2017-04-12 12:41 ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-12 14:10 ` Max Reitz
2017-04-13 8:05 ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-13 9:02 ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-13 9:05 ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-11 14:49 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2017-04-11 14:58 ` Eric Blake
2017-04-11 14:59 ` Max Reitz
2017-04-11 15:08 ` Eric Blake
2017-04-11 15:18 ` Max Reitz
2017-04-11 15:29 ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-11 15:29 ` Max Reitz
2017-04-11 15:30 ` Eric Blake
2017-04-11 15:34 ` Max Reitz
2017-04-12 12:47 ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-12 16:54 ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-04-13 11:58 ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-13 12:44 ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-04-13 13:05 ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-13 13:09 ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-04-13 13:36 ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-13 14:06 ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-04-13 13:21 ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-13 13:30 ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-04-13 13:59 ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-13 15:04 ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-13 15:17 ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-04-18 11:52 ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-18 17:27 ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-04-13 13:51 ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-13 14:15 ` Alberto Garcia
2017-04-13 14:27 ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-13 16:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Roman Kagan
2017-04-13 14:42 ` [Qemu-devel] " Denis V. Lunev
2017-04-12 17:55 ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-04-12 18:20 ` Eric Blake
2017-04-12 19:02 ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-04-13 9:44 ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-13 10:19 ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-04-14 1:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " John Snow
2017-04-14 4:17 ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-04-18 11:22 ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-18 17:30 ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-04-14 7:40 ` Roman Kagan
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