From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
To: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Haozhong Zhang <haozhong.zhang@intel.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong.eric@gmail.com>,
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/4] nvdimm: enable flush hint address structure
Date: Fri, 7 Apr 2017 15:31:23 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170407143123.GI16146@stefanha-x1.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4jYHN7gaofVUFDqubf-ZyrQttw7aPO=f2iGbXpMeJGXbA@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Apr 06, 2017 at 07:32:01AM -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 2:43 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 04:41:43PM +0800, Haozhong Zhang wrote:
> * I don't think we can just skip implementing support for this flush.
> Yes it's virtualization unfriendly, but it completely defeats the
> persistence of persistent memory if the host filesystem is free to
> throw away writes that the guest expects to find after a surprise
> power loss.
Right, if we don't implement Address Flush Hints then the only safe
option for configurations that require them would be to print an error
and refuse to start.
This synchronous fsync(2) business is like taking a host page fault or
being scheduled out by the host scheduler. It means the vcpu is stuck
for a little bit. Hopefully not long enough to upset the guest kernel
or the application.
One of the things that guest software can do to help minimize the
performance impact is to avoid holding locks across the address flush
mmio write instruction.
Stefan
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Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-31 8:41 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/4] nvdimm: enable flush hint address structure Haozhong Zhang
2017-03-31 8:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 1/4] pc-dimm: add 'reserved-size' to reserve address range after the ending address Haozhong Zhang
2017-04-06 10:24 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-04-06 10:46 ` Haozhong Zhang
2017-04-07 13:46 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-04-11 8:57 ` Haozhong Zhang
2017-04-20 10:54 ` Igor Mammedov
2017-04-06 11:50 ` Xiao Guangrong
2017-03-31 8:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 2/4] nvdimm: add functions to initialize and perform flush on back store Haozhong Zhang
2017-04-06 11:52 ` Xiao Guangrong
2017-04-11 8:22 ` Haozhong Zhang
2017-04-11 8:29 ` Haozhong Zhang
2017-04-11 11:55 ` Xiao Guangrong
2017-04-20 13:12 ` Igor Mammedov
2017-03-31 8:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 3/4] nvdimm acpi: record the cache line size in AcpiNVDIMMState Haozhong Zhang
2017-03-31 8:41 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 4/4] nvdimm acpi: build flush hint address structure if required Haozhong Zhang
2017-04-06 10:13 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-04-06 10:53 ` Haozhong Zhang
2017-04-07 14:41 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-04-07 15:51 ` Dan Williams
2017-04-06 10:25 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-04-20 11:22 ` Igor Mammedov
2017-04-06 9:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH 0/4] nvdimm: enable flush hint address structure Xiao Guangrong
2017-04-06 9:58 ` Haozhong Zhang
2017-04-06 11:46 ` Xiao Guangrong
2017-04-06 9:43 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-04-06 10:31 ` Haozhong Zhang
2017-04-07 14:38 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-04-06 12:02 ` Xiao Guangrong
2017-04-11 8:41 ` Haozhong Zhang
2017-04-11 14:56 ` Dan Williams
2017-04-20 19:49 ` Dan Williams
2017-04-21 13:56 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-04-21 19:14 ` Dan Williams
2017-04-06 14:32 ` Dan Williams
2017-04-07 14:31 ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2017-04-11 6:34 ` Haozhong Zhang
2017-04-18 10:15 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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