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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org, mreitz@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 01/13] qcow2: Unallocate unmapped zero clusters if no backing file
Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2017 11:49:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170412094909.GC4955@noname.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170411011718.9152-2-eblake@redhat.com>

Am 11.04.2017 um 03:17 hat Eric Blake geschrieben:
> 'qemu-img map' already coalesces information about unallocated
> clusters (those with status 0) and pure zero clusters (those
> with status BDRV_BLOCK_ZERO and no offset).  Furthermore, all
> qcow2 images with no backing file already report all unallocated
> clusters (in the preallocation sense of clusters with no offset)
> as BDRV_BLOCK_ZERO, regardless of whether the QCOW_OFLAG_ZERO was
> set in that L2 entry (QCOW_OFLAG_ZERO also implies a return of
> BDRV_BLOCK_ALLOCATED, but we intentionally do not expose that bit
> to external users), thanks to generic block layer code in
> bdrv_co_get_block_status().
> 
> So, for an image with no backing file, having bdrv_pwrite_zeroes
> mark clusters as unallocated (defer to backing file) rather than
> reads-as-zero (regardless of backing file) makes no difference
> to normal behavior, but may potentially allow for fewer writes to
> the L2 table of a freshly-created image where the L2 table is
> initially written to all-zeroes (although I don't actually know
> if we skip an L2 update and flush when re-writing the same
> contents as already present).

I don't get this. Allocating a cluster always involves an L2 update, no
matter whether it was previously unallocated or a zero cluster.

> Furthermore, this matches the behavior of discard_single_l2(), in
> favoring an unallocated cluster over a zero cluster when full
> discard is requested.

The only use for "full discard" is qcow2_make_empty(). It explicitly
requests that the backing file becomes visible again. This is a
completely different case.

In other words, in order to stay consistent between discard and
write_zeroes from a guest POV, we need to leave this code alone.

> Meanwhile, version 2 qcow2 files (compat=0.10) lack support for an
> explicit zero cluster.  This minor tweak therefore allows us to turn
> write zeroes with unmap into an actual unallocation on those files,
> where they used to return -ENOTSUP and cause an allocation due to
> the fallback to explicitly written zeroes.

Okay, this is true.

But I doubt that making write_zeroes more efficient on v2 images without
a backing file is really worth any extra complexity at this point...

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-12  9:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-11  1:17 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.10 v9 00/13] add blkdebug tests Eric Blake
2017-04-11  1:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 01/13] qcow2: Unallocate unmapped zero clusters if no backing file Eric Blake
2017-04-12  9:49   ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2017-04-12 13:32     ` Eric Blake
2017-04-21 18:42     ` Eric Blake
2017-05-11 14:56     ` Eric Blake
2017-05-11 15:18       ` Eric Blake
2017-05-12 16:06       ` Max Reitz
2017-05-12 23:00         ` John Snow
2017-05-15 18:35           ` Max Reitz
2017-04-11  1:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 02/13] iotests: Add test 179 to cover write zeroes with unmap Eric Blake
2017-04-11  1:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 03/13] qemu-io: Switch 'alloc' command to byte-based length Eric Blake
2017-04-11  2:37   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2017-04-11 12:11     ` Eric Blake
2017-04-11  1:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 04/13] qemu-io: Switch 'map' output to byte-based reporting Eric Blake
2017-04-11  1:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 05/13] qcow2: Optimize write zero of unaligned tail cluster Eric Blake
2017-04-11  1:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 06/13] qcow2: Assert that cluster operations are aligned Eric Blake
2017-04-11  1:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 07/13] qcow2: Discard/zero clusters by byte count Eric Blake
2017-04-11 22:12   ` Eric Blake
2017-04-11 22:15   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9.5 07/13] fixup! " Eric Blake
2017-04-11  1:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 08/13] blkdebug: Sanity check block layer guarantees Eric Blake
2017-04-11  1:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 09/13] blkdebug: Refactor error injection Eric Blake
2017-04-11  1:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 10/13] blkdebug: Add pass-through write_zero and discard support Eric Blake
2017-04-11  1:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 11/13] blkdebug: Simplify override logic Eric Blake
2017-04-11  1:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 12/13] blkdebug: Add ability to override unmap geometries Eric Blake
2017-04-11  1:17 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v9 13/13] tests: Add coverage for recent block geometry fixes Eric Blake

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