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From: Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, eblake@redhat.com,
	Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 04/20] qemu-img: Add --share-rw option to subcommands
Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 19:28:13 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170424112813.GF14416@lemon.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170424101356.GD4739@noname.redhat.com>

On Mon, 04/24 12:13, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 24.04.2017 um 08:10 hat Fam Zheng geschrieben:
> > On Fri, 04/21 15:25, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > > Am 21.04.2017 um 05:55 hat Fam Zheng geschrieben:
> > > > Similar to share-rw qdev property, this will force the opened images to
> > > > allow shared write permission of other programs.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>
> > > 
> > > General observation: We were considering to make share-rw require
> > > read-only. Some of the commands converted here always open the image
> > > read-write, so if we go ahead with the restriction, will the option
> > > become useless in many of the subcommands?
> > 
> > share-rw on qdev doesn't require read-only, so I personally perfer we
> > follow that manner.
> 
> It's not really completely comparable to qdev's share-rw because qdev
> only shares writes on the top level (and the qcow2 driver restricts this
> again down the tree), while this option propagates all the way down.
> Which is why you called the block layer option "force-shared-write".
> Maybe that would be the better name here as well.

Makes sense to me.

> 
> > Because even with --share-rw for the read-write commands, the image is
> > still protected from corruption by the fact that the other side
> > probably uses non-share-rw.
> 
> If the other side "probably" uses non-share-rw, then the image is only
> "probably" protected. I think you're right about the common case, but if
> two qemu instances use force-shared-write=on, then we get actual image
> corruption.
> 
> As far as I know, our real use cases for the option are read-only: We
> want to inspect images which are in use by a VM. Do we have any use
> cases for read-write access?
> 
> Note that this is different from qdev in that share-rw on the qdev level
> affects only the user data and can work e.g. if the guest uses a cluster
> file system. But this option affects metadata as well and qcow2 never
> supports this, so opening two images read-write at the same time is
> guaranteed to corrupt the image.

OK, I think that makes sense too.

> 
> > But on the other hand, we can always add the option when necessary, so
> > it's okay to leave them as is. If you insist, I can remove them in
> > next version.
> 
> Yes, I think we really need a check in bdrv_open_common() that forbids
> force-shared-write=on on writable images. And then, the options in
> qemu-img become useless when applied to writable images because they
> would only produce errors.
> 
> > > >  qemu-img.c | 155 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------------
> > > >  1 file changed, 119 insertions(+), 36 deletions(-)
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/qemu-img.c b/qemu-img.c
> > > > index ed24371..df88a79 100644
> > > > --- a/qemu-img.c
> > > > +++ b/qemu-img.c
> > > > @@ -28,6 +28,7 @@
> > > >  #include "qapi/qobject-output-visitor.h"
> > > >  #include "qapi/qmp/qerror.h"
> > > >  #include "qapi/qmp/qjson.h"
> > > > +#include "qapi/qmp/qbool.h"
> > > >  #include "qemu/cutils.h"
> > > >  #include "qemu/config-file.h"
> > > >  #include "qemu/option.h"
> > > > @@ -283,12 +284,15 @@ static int img_open_password(BlockBackend *blk, const char *filename,
> > > >  
> > > >  static BlockBackend *img_open_opts(const char *optstr,
> > > >                                     QemuOpts *opts, int flags, bool writethrough,
> > > > -                                   bool quiet)
> > > > +                                   bool quiet, bool share_rw)
> > > >  {
> > > >      QDict *options;
> > > >      Error *local_err = NULL;
> > > >      BlockBackend *blk;
> > > >      options = qemu_opts_to_qdict(opts, NULL);
> > > > +    if (share_rw) {
> > > > +        qdict_put(options, BDRV_OPT_FORCE_SHARED_WRITE, qbool_from_bool(true));
> > > > +    }
> > > 
> > > It's interesting that you chose a conditional qdict_put for true rather
> > > than an unconditional one for share_rw here. The difference becomes
> > > visible when someone sets both -U and share-rw=off; we need to decide
> > > which one should take precedence.
> > 
> > I don't have a preference here.  Setting both -U and share-rw=off is
> > inconsistent, it's not a problem to yield an "undefined" result.
> 
> We could just check whether the entry already exists and error out.
> Maybe that's the best option.

Sounds good, will add the check.

Fam

  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-24 11:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-21  3:55 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 00/20] block: Image locking series Fam Zheng
2017-04-21  3:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 01/20] block: Add, parse and store "force-shared-write" option Fam Zheng
2017-04-21  8:34   ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-21  3:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 02/20] qapi: Add 'force-shared-write' to blockdev-add arguments Fam Zheng
2017-04-21  8:35   ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-21  8:42     ` Fam Zheng
2017-04-21  3:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 03/20] block: Respect "force-shared-write" in perm propagating Fam Zheng
2017-04-21  8:38   ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-21  3:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 04/20] qemu-img: Add --share-rw option to subcommands Fam Zheng
2017-04-21 13:25   ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-21 15:35     ` Eric Blake
2017-04-24  6:10     ` Fam Zheng
2017-04-24 10:13       ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-24 11:28         ` Fam Zheng [this message]
2017-04-21  3:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 05/20] qemu-img: Update documentation for --share-rw Fam Zheng
2017-04-21 15:37   ` Eric Blake
2017-04-24  5:44     ` Fam Zheng
2017-04-21  3:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 06/20] qemu-io: Add --share-rw option Fam Zheng
2017-04-21 13:45   ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-21  3:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 07/20] iotests: 030: Prepare for image locking Fam Zheng
2017-04-21 13:51   ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-24  6:15     ` Fam Zheng
2017-04-21  3:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 08/20] iotests: 046: " Fam Zheng
2017-04-21  3:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 09/20] iotests: 055: Don't attach the target image already for drive-backup Fam Zheng
2017-04-21  3:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 10/20] iotests: 085: Avoid image locking conflict Fam Zheng
2017-04-21  3:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 11/20] iotests: 087: Don't attach test image twice Fam Zheng
2017-04-21  3:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 12/20] iotests: 091: Quit QEMU before checking image Fam Zheng
2017-04-21  3:55 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 13/20] iotests: 172: Use separate images for multiple devices Fam Zheng
2017-04-21  3:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 14/20] tests: Use null-co:// instead of /dev/null as the dummy image Fam Zheng
2017-04-21  3:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 15/20] file-posix: Add 'locking' option Fam Zheng
2017-04-21  3:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 16/20] tests: Disable image lock in test-replication Fam Zheng
2017-04-21  3:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 17/20] block: Reuse bs as backing hd for drive-backup sync=none Fam Zheng
2017-04-21  3:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 18/20] osdep: Add qemu_lock_fd and qemu_unlock_fd Fam Zheng
2017-04-21  3:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 19/20] file-posix: Add image locking in perm operations Fam Zheng
2017-04-24 13:39   ` Kevin Wolf
2017-04-21  3:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v14 20/20] qemu-iotests: Add test case 153 for image locking Fam Zheng

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