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From: Greg Kurz <groug@kaod.org>
To: Andrea Bolognani <abologna@redhat.com>
Cc: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
	clg@kaod.org, aik@ozlabs.ru, mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, armbru@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] [PATCHv3 0/4] Clean up compatibility mode handling
Date: Thu, 4 May 2017 21:22:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170504212237.341bf8ef@bahia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1493908379.4214.8.camel@redhat.com>

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On Thu, 04 May 2017 16:32:59 +0200
Andrea Bolognani <abologna@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 2017-04-27 at 17:28 +1000, David Gibson wrote:
> > This is a rebased and revised version of my patches revising CPU
> > compatiblity mode handling on ppc, last posted in November.  Since
> > then, many of the patches have already been merged (some for 2.9, some
> > since).  This is what's left.
> > 
> >  * There was conceptual confusion about what a compatibility mode
> >    means, and how it interacts with the machine type.  This cleans
> >    that up, clarifying that a compatibility mode (as an externally set
> >    option) only makes sense on machine types that don't permit the
> >    guest hypervisor privilege (i.e. 'pseries')
> > 
> >  * It was previously the user's (or management layer's) responsibility
> >    to determine compatibility of CPUs on either end for migration.
> >    This uses the compatibility modes to check that properly during an
> >    incoming migration.  
> 
> I started playing with this, mostly with libvirt integration
> in mind of course, and quickly ran into a behavior that I
> believe was not intentional and unfortunately managed to slip
> into 2.9, I assume through the patches which were initially
> part of this series (mentioned above).
> 
> More specifically, when I run a guest with
> 
>   -M pseries-2.8 -cpu host
> 
> using QEMU 2.8, the CPU in the guest is reported as
> 
>   POWER8E (raw), altivec supported
> 
> However, when using QEMU 2.9 with the very same command line,
> including explicitly using the pseries-2.8 machine type, I
> get
> 
>   POWER8 (architected), altivec supported
> 

The goal of this series is indeed to switch from raw to architected but I
agree that it shouldn't affect existing machine types. This probably calls
for some compat prop.

> instead. The same happens with current master + your patches
> applied on top.
> 
> I'm not sure how much real trouble that will actually cause
> for guests, but it's a guest-visible change as a result of
> upgrading QEMU, which should just not happen.
> 
> 
> I'll keep testing your series and get back to you as soon as
> I have more feedback or questions.
> 
> -- 
> Andrea Bolognani / Red Hat / Virtualization
> 


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  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-04 19:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-27  7:28 [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 0/4] Clean up compatibility mode handling David Gibson
2017-04-27  7:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 1/4] qapi: add explicit null to string input and output visitors David Gibson
2017-05-02 11:48   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Greg Kurz
2017-04-27  7:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 2/4] pseries: Move CPU compatibility property to machine David Gibson
2017-04-27 17:23   ` Michael Roth
2017-05-01  2:33     ` David Gibson
2017-05-02 11:23       ` Greg Kurz
2017-05-02 14:24   ` Greg Kurz
2017-05-26  1:24     ` David Gibson
2017-05-04 10:06   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Greg Kurz
2017-05-04 17:09   ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrea Bolognani
2017-05-04 18:50     ` Greg Kurz
2017-05-12  7:08       ` David Gibson
2017-05-26  2:10     ` David Gibson
2017-04-27  7:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 3/4] pseries: Reset CPU compatibility mode David Gibson
2017-04-27 18:08   ` Michael Roth
2017-04-27  7:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 4/4] ppc: Rework CPU compatibility testing across migration David Gibson
2017-04-27 19:51   ` Michael Roth
2017-05-01  6:48     ` David Gibson
2017-05-26  3:40     ` David Gibson
2017-05-04 10:07   ` Greg Kurz
2017-05-26  4:16     ` David Gibson
2017-05-29 10:51       ` Greg Kurz
2017-04-27  8:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 0/4] Clean up compatibility mode handling no-reply
2017-04-28  9:29 ` Greg Kurz
2017-05-03 18:03 ` Greg Kurz
2017-05-04 14:32 ` Andrea Bolognani
2017-05-04 19:22   ` Greg Kurz [this message]
2017-05-12  7:33     ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " David Gibson
2017-05-12  8:33       ` Andrea Bolognani

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