From: Greg Kurz <groug@kaod.org>
To: Andrea Bolognani <abologna@redhat.com>
Cc: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
clg@kaod.org, aik@ozlabs.ru, mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
nikunj@linux.vnet.ibm.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, armbru@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] [PATCHv3 0/4] Clean up compatibility mode handling
Date: Thu, 4 May 2017 21:22:37 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170504212237.341bf8ef@bahia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1493908379.4214.8.camel@redhat.com>
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On Thu, 04 May 2017 16:32:59 +0200
Andrea Bolognani <abologna@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 2017-04-27 at 17:28 +1000, David Gibson wrote:
> > This is a rebased and revised version of my patches revising CPU
> > compatiblity mode handling on ppc, last posted in November. Since
> > then, many of the patches have already been merged (some for 2.9, some
> > since). This is what's left.
> >
> > * There was conceptual confusion about what a compatibility mode
> > means, and how it interacts with the machine type. This cleans
> > that up, clarifying that a compatibility mode (as an externally set
> > option) only makes sense on machine types that don't permit the
> > guest hypervisor privilege (i.e. 'pseries')
> >
> > * It was previously the user's (or management layer's) responsibility
> > to determine compatibility of CPUs on either end for migration.
> > This uses the compatibility modes to check that properly during an
> > incoming migration.
>
> I started playing with this, mostly with libvirt integration
> in mind of course, and quickly ran into a behavior that I
> believe was not intentional and unfortunately managed to slip
> into 2.9, I assume through the patches which were initially
> part of this series (mentioned above).
>
> More specifically, when I run a guest with
>
> -M pseries-2.8 -cpu host
>
> using QEMU 2.8, the CPU in the guest is reported as
>
> POWER8E (raw), altivec supported
>
> However, when using QEMU 2.9 with the very same command line,
> including explicitly using the pseries-2.8 machine type, I
> get
>
> POWER8 (architected), altivec supported
>
The goal of this series is indeed to switch from raw to architected but I
agree that it shouldn't affect existing machine types. This probably calls
for some compat prop.
> instead. The same happens with current master + your patches
> applied on top.
>
> I'm not sure how much real trouble that will actually cause
> for guests, but it's a guest-visible change as a result of
> upgrading QEMU, which should just not happen.
>
>
> I'll keep testing your series and get back to you as soon as
> I have more feedback or questions.
>
> --
> Andrea Bolognani / Red Hat / Virtualization
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-05-04 19:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-04-27 7:28 [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 0/4] Clean up compatibility mode handling David Gibson
2017-04-27 7:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 1/4] qapi: add explicit null to string input and output visitors David Gibson
2017-05-02 11:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Greg Kurz
2017-04-27 7:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 2/4] pseries: Move CPU compatibility property to machine David Gibson
2017-04-27 17:23 ` Michael Roth
2017-05-01 2:33 ` David Gibson
2017-05-02 11:23 ` Greg Kurz
2017-05-02 14:24 ` Greg Kurz
2017-05-26 1:24 ` David Gibson
2017-05-04 10:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Greg Kurz
2017-05-04 17:09 ` [Qemu-devel] " Andrea Bolognani
2017-05-04 18:50 ` Greg Kurz
2017-05-12 7:08 ` David Gibson
2017-05-26 2:10 ` David Gibson
2017-04-27 7:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 3/4] pseries: Reset CPU compatibility mode David Gibson
2017-04-27 18:08 ` Michael Roth
2017-04-27 7:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 4/4] ppc: Rework CPU compatibility testing across migration David Gibson
2017-04-27 19:51 ` Michael Roth
2017-05-01 6:48 ` David Gibson
2017-05-26 3:40 ` David Gibson
2017-05-04 10:07 ` Greg Kurz
2017-05-26 4:16 ` David Gibson
2017-05-29 10:51 ` Greg Kurz
2017-04-27 8:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCHv3 0/4] Clean up compatibility mode handling no-reply
2017-04-28 9:29 ` Greg Kurz
2017-05-03 18:03 ` Greg Kurz
2017-05-04 14:32 ` Andrea Bolognani
2017-05-04 19:22 ` Greg Kurz [this message]
2017-05-12 7:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " David Gibson
2017-05-12 8:33 ` Andrea Bolognani
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