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From: Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>
To: Peter Lieven <pl@kamp.de>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org,
	mreitz@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] qemu-io: add drain/undrain cmd
Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 20:28:02 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170515122802.GB7305@lemon.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <243331f2-3822-3c0e-b4a5-9f3de2302fe4@kamp.de>

On Mon, 05/15 13:58, Peter Lieven wrote:
> Am 15.05.2017 um 13:53 schrieb Fam Zheng:
> > On Mon, 05/15 13:26, Peter Lieven wrote:
> > > Am 15.05.2017 um 12:50 schrieb Fam Zheng:
> > > > On Mon, 05/15 12:02, Peter Lieven wrote:
> > > > > Hi Block developers,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I would like to add a feature to Qemu to drain all traffic from a block so that
> > > > > I can take external snaphosts without the risk to that in the middle of a write
> > > > > operation. Its meant for cases where where QGA freeze/thaw is not available.
> > > > > 
> > > > > For me its enough to have this through qemu-io, but Kevin asked me to check
> > > > > if its not worth to have a stable API for it and present it via QMP/HMP.
> > > > > 
> > > > > What are your thoughts?
> > > > For debugging purpose or a "hacky" usage where you know what you are doing, it
> > > > may be fine to have this. The only issue is it should be a separate flag, like
> > > > BlockJob.user_paused.
> > > How can I add, remove such a flag?
> > Like bs->user_drained. Set it in "drain" command, then increment
> > bs->quiesce_counter if toggled; vise versa.
> 
> Ah okay. You wouldn't use bdrv_drained_begin/end? Because in these functions
> the counter is incremented already.

You're right, calling bdrv_drained_begin() is better.

> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > > > What happens from guest perspective? In the case of virtio, the request queue is
> > > > not handled and -ETIMEDOUT may happen. With IDE, I/O commands are still handled,
> > > > the command is not effective (or rather the implementation is not complete).
> > > That it only works with virtio is fine. However, the thing it does not work correctly
> > > apply then also to all other users of the drained_begin/end functions, right?
> > > As for the timeout I only plan to drain the device for about 1 second.
> > It didn't matter because for IDE, the invariant (staying quiesced as long as
> > necessary) is already ensured by BQL.  Virtio is different because it supports
> > ioeventfd and data plane.
> 
> Okay understood. So my use of bdrv_drained_begin/end is more an abuse of
> these functions?

Sort of. But it's not unreasonable to "extend" bdrv_drained_begin/end to cover
IDE, I just haven't thought about "how".

> 
> Do you have another idea how to achieve what I want? I was thinking of throttle
> the I/O to zero. It would be enough to do this for writes, reading doesn't hurt in
> my case.

Maybe add a block filter on top of the drained node, drain it when doing so,
then queue all further requests with a CoQueue until "undrain".  (It is then not
quite to "drain" but to "halt" or "pause", though.)

Fam

  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-15 12:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-15 10:02 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH] qemu-io: add drain/undrain cmd Peter Lieven
2017-05-15 10:50 ` Fam Zheng
2017-05-15 11:26   ` Peter Lieven
2017-05-15 11:53     ` Fam Zheng
2017-05-15 11:58       ` Peter Lieven
2017-05-15 12:28         ` Fam Zheng [this message]
2017-05-15 12:32           ` Peter Lieven
2017-05-15 12:52             ` Fam Zheng
2017-05-15 13:01               ` Peter Lieven
2017-05-15 13:35                 ` Fam Zheng
2017-05-15 14:02                   ` Peter Lieven
2017-05-15 14:11                     ` Fam Zheng
2017-05-15 13:02               ` Kevin Wolf
2017-05-15 14:23                 ` Peter Lieven
2017-05-17 12:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi

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