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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
Cc: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>,
	lvivier@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] migration: Remove use of old MigrationParams
Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 18:27:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170515172736.GA26717@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a86edpot.fsf@secure.mitica>

* Juan Quintela (quintela@redhat.com) wrote:
> "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com> wrote:
> > * Juan Quintela (quintela@redhat.com) wrote:
> >> Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> > Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com> writes:
> >> >
> >> >> Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> >>> Or is the proposal that we are also going to simplify the QMP 'migrate'
> >> >>> command to get rid of crufty parameters?
> >> >>
> >> >> I didn't read it that way, but I would not oppose O:-)
> >> >>
> >> >> Later, Juan.
> >> >
> >> > I'm not too familiar with this stuff, so please correct my
> >> > misunderstandings.
> >> >
> >> > "Normal" migration configuration is global state, i.e. it applies to all
> >> > future migrations.
> >> >
> >> > Except the "migrate" command's flags apply to just the migration kicked
> >> > off by that command.
> >> >
> >> > QMP command "migrate" has two flags "blk" (HMP: -b) and "inc" (HMP: -i).
> >> > !blk && inc makes no sense and is silently treated like !blk && !inc.
> >> >
> >> > There's a third flag "detach" (HMP: -d), but it does nothing in QMP.
> >> 
> >> As qmp command is asynchronous, you can think that -d is *always* on in
> >> QMP O:-)
> >> 
> >> > You'd like to deprecate these flags in favour of "normal" configuration.
> >> > However, we need to maintain QMP backward compatibility at least for a
> >> > while.  HMP backward compatibility is nice to have, but not required.
> >> >
> >> > First step is to design the new interface you want.  Second step is to
> >> > figure out backward compatibility.
> >> >
> >> > The new interface adds a block migration tri-state (off,
> >> > non-incremental, incremental) to global state, default off.  Whether
> >> > it's done as two bools or an enum of three values doesn't matter here.
> >> 
> >> Tristates will complicate it.  I still think that:
> >> 
> >> - capability: block_migration
> >> - parameter: block_shared
> >> 
> >> Makes more sense, no?
> >
> > I don't understand what making block_shared a parameter gives you as
> > opposed to simply having two capabilities.
> >
> > (And how did we get 'shared'? We started off with block & incremental)
> 
> The variables on MigrationParams:
> 
> struct MigrationParams {
>     bool blk;
>     bool shared;
> };
> 
> 
> I can move to incremental.  I am not sure which one is clearer.
> 
> The advantage of having shared as a parameter is that we forget about
> all this dependency bussiness.  Is the same than compression_threads
> paramter, you setup to whichever value that you want.  But you don't get
> compression_threads until you set the compress capability.
> 
> So, in this case we will have:
> 
> block capability: Are we using block migration or not
> block-incremental parameter: If we are using block migration, are we
>       using incremental copying of the block layer?

If it's still a boolean why does having it as a parameter remove the
dependency?

Dave

> 
> Later, Juan.
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK

  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-15 17:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-11 16:32 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/3] Remove old MigrationParams Juan Quintela
2017-05-11 16:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] migration: Create block capabilities for shared and enable Juan Quintela
2017-05-12 19:52   ` Eric Blake
2017-05-15  9:41     ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-15  9:46       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-15 14:24         ` Eric Blake
2017-05-15 15:38           ` Markus Armbruster
2017-05-15 16:06             ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-16  6:49               ` Markus Armbruster
2017-05-15 15:56           ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-11 16:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] migration: Remove use of old MigrationParams Juan Quintela
2017-05-12  3:40   ` Peter Xu
2017-05-12 10:55     ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-12 19:59       ` Eric Blake
2017-05-15  9:48         ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-15 10:43           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-15 14:28           ` Eric Blake
2017-05-15 15:59             ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-15 16:06           ` Markus Armbruster
2017-05-15 16:33             ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-15 16:38               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-15 16:56                 ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-15 17:27                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2017-05-15 17:35                     ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-15 17:38                       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-15 17:45                         ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-15 18:32                           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-16  7:25               ` Markus Armbruster
2017-05-16  8:00                 ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-15 10:05       ` Peter Xu
2017-05-11 16:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] migration: Remove " Juan Quintela
2017-05-12  2:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/3] " Hailiang Zhang
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-04-25 10:30 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH " Juan Quintela
2017-04-25 10:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] migration: Remove use of " Juan Quintela
2017-04-28 16:55   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-04  8:51     ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-04  9:14       ` Hailiang Zhang
2017-05-11 16:33         ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-12  2:02           ` Hailiang Zhang
2017-04-28 18:49   ` Eric Blake

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