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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>
Cc: peterx@redhat.com, marcandre.lureau@gmail.com,
	vkaplans@redhat.com, jasowang@redhat.com, wexu@redhat.com,
	yuanhan.liu@linux.intel.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	jfreiman@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/6] vhost: Update rings information for IOTLB earlier
Date: Thu, 18 May 2017 18:24:59 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170518181945-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <34ccd41c-d799-21d9-ecf3-3903b68a24ea@redhat.com>

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 04:45:23PM +0200, Maxime Coquelin wrote:
> Hi Michael,
> 
> On 05/18/2017 09:35 AM, Maxime Coquelin wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On 05/17/2017 06:41 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 01:21:18PM +0200, Maxime Coquelin wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On 05/11/2017 07:33 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 02:32:43PM +0200, Maxime Coquelin wrote:
> > > > > > Vhost-kernel backend need to receive IOTLB entries for rings
> > > > > > information early, but vhost-user need the same information
> > > > > > earlier, before VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_ADDR is sent.
> > > > > Weird. What does VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_ADDR have to do with it?
> > > > > 
> > > > > According to
> > > > >     Starting and stopping rings
> > > > > in vhost user spec, vhost user does not access
> > > > > anything until ring is started and enabled.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > This patch also trigger IOTLB miss for all rings informations
> > > > > > for robustness, even if in practice these adresses are on the
> > > > > > same page.
> > > > Actually, the DPDK vhost-user backend is compliant with the spec,
> > > > but when handling VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_ADDR request, it translates the
> > > > guest addresses into backend VAs, and check they are valid. I
> > > > will make the
> > > > commit message clearer about this in next revision.
> > > > 
> > > > The check could be done later, for example when the ring are started,
> > > > but it wouldn't change the need to trigger a miss at some point.
> > > I think it should be done later, yes. As long as ring is not
> > > started addresses should not be interpreted.
> > > 
> > 
> > Ok, then I'll move these addresses translations in the
> > VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_KICK handler.
> s/VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_KICK/VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_ENABLE/

Note that when protocol features are off ring is started in
enabled state, but iommu requires protocol features.

> I just looked at implementing this change, but I'm not convinced this is
> the right thing to do.
> 
> On backend side, it means saving temporarily the vhost_vring_addr struct
> into the vq struct, and moving all what is done currently in
> SET_VRING_ADDR handler to SET_VRING_ENABLE one.

Yes, and this is consistent with what the kernel does.

> My understanding of the "Starting and stopping rings" chapter of the
> spec is that the ring must not be processed as long as not started and
> enabled, not that the addresses passed should not be checked/translated
> as it is done today both in DPDK and libvhost-user.
> 
> If the addresses are invalid, isn't it better to know as soon as
> possible?
> 
> Cheers,
> Maxime

There could be valid reasons to set an invalid address temporarily.
For example to make sure connection is reset.



-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-18 15:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-11 12:32 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/6] vhost-user: Specify and implement device IOTLB support Maxime Coquelin
2017-05-11 12:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/6] vhost: propagate errors in vhost_device_iotlb_miss() Maxime Coquelin
2017-05-11 12:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/6] vhost: rework IOTLB messaging Maxime Coquelin
2017-05-11 12:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/6] vhost: Update rings information for IOTLB earlier Maxime Coquelin
2017-05-11 17:33   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-05-12 11:21     ` Maxime Coquelin
2017-05-17 16:41       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-05-18  7:35         ` Maxime Coquelin
2017-05-18 14:45           ` Maxime Coquelin
2017-05-18 15:24             ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2017-05-19  9:48               ` Maxime Coquelin
2017-05-19 20:37                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-05-11 12:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/6] vhost-user: add vhost_user to hold the chr Maxime Coquelin
2017-05-11 12:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/6] vhost-user: add slave-req-fd support Maxime Coquelin
2017-05-11 12:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/6] spec/vhost-user spec: Add IOMMU support Maxime Coquelin
2017-05-11 18:25   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-05-12 14:21     ` Maxime Coquelin
2017-05-13  0:02       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-05-15  5:45         ` Jason Wang
2017-05-16 15:16           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-05-17  2:53             ` Jason Wang
2017-05-17 14:10               ` Maxime Coquelin
2017-05-19  6:48                 ` Jason Wang
2017-05-19  8:35                   ` Maxime Coquelin
2017-05-17 15:27         ` Maxime Coquelin
2017-05-16  8:19       ` Maxime Coquelin
2017-05-16 13:23         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-05-17 16:48   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-05-18  8:43     ` Maxime Coquelin
2017-05-19  7:46       ` Jason Wang
2017-05-19 16:42         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-05-11 13:25 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/6] vhost-user: Specify and implement device IOTLB support no-reply

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