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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 1/6] io: only allow return path for socket typed
Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 13:54:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170519125421.GN2081@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170519083010.GE4912@redhat.com>

* Daniel P. Berrange (berrange@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 09:25:38AM +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> > On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 02:43:27PM +0800, Peter Xu wrote:
> > > We don't really have a return path for the other types yet. Let's check
> > > this when .get_return_path() is called.
> > > 
> > > For this, we introduce a new feature bit, and set it up only for socket
> > > typed IO channels.
> > > 
> > > This will help detect earlier failure for postcopy, e.g., logically
> > > speaking postcopy cannot work with "exec:". Before this patch, when we
> > > try to migrate with "migrate -d exec:cat>out", we'll hang the system.
> > > With this patch, we'll get:
> > > 
> > > (qemu) migrate -d exec:cat>out
> > > Unable to open return-path for postcopy
> > 
> > This is wrong - post-copy migration *can* work with exec: - it just entirely
> > depends on what command you are running. Your example ran a command which is
> > unidirectional, but if you ran 'exec:socat ...' you would have a fully
> > bidirectional channel. Actually the channel is always bi-directional, but
> > 'cat' simply won't ever send data back to QEMU.
> > 
> > If QEMU hangs when the other end doesn't send data back, that actually seems
> > like a potentially serious bug in migration code. Even if using the normal
> > 'tcp' migration protocol, if the target QEMU server hangs and fails to
> > send data to QEMU on the return path, the source QEMU must never hang.
> 
> BTW, if you want to simplify the code in this area at all, then arguably
> we should get rid of the "get_return_path" helper method entirely. We're
> not actually opening any new connections - we're just creating a second
> QEMUFile that uses the same underlying QIOChannel object. All we would
> need is for the QEMUFile to have a separate 'buf' field management in
> QEMUFile for the read & write directions.  Then all the code would be
> able to just use the single QEMUFile for read & write getting rid of this
> concept of "opening a return path" which doens't actually do anything at
> the underlying data transport level.

No, I'd rather keep the get_return_path;  we should keep each direction
separate.

Dave

> Regards,
> Daniel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-05-19 12:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-19  6:43 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/6] migration: enable return-path for precopy Peter Xu
2017-05-19  6:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 1/6] io: only allow return path for socket typed Peter Xu
2017-05-19  8:25   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-05-19  8:30     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-05-19  9:55       ` Peter Xu
2017-05-19 12:54       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2017-05-19  9:51     ` Peter Xu
2017-05-19 10:03       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-05-19 12:51     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-19 12:56       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-05-19 13:02         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-19 13:13           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-05-19 14:33             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-19 14:51               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-05-19 18:41                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-22  8:26                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-05-19  6:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 2/6] migration: isolate return path on src Peter Xu
2017-05-30 13:31   ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-19  6:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 3/6] migration: fix leak of src file on dst Peter Xu
2017-05-30 15:49   ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-31  9:51   ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-19  6:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 4/6] migration: shut src return path unconditionally Peter Xu
2017-05-19 19:28   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-30 15:50   ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-31  7:31     ` Peter Xu
2017-05-31  7:36       ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-30 15:59   ` Juan Quintela
2017-06-05 20:22   ` Eric Blake
2017-06-06  2:00     ` Peter Xu
2017-05-19  6:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 5/6] migration: let MigrationState be an QObject Peter Xu
2017-05-30 15:57   ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-31  7:33     ` Peter Xu
2017-05-19  6:43 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 6/6] migration: enable return path for precopy Peter Xu
2017-05-30 15:59   ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-31  7:38     ` Peter Xu
2017-05-31  7:43       ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-31  8:04         ` Peter Xu
2017-05-31  8:12           ` Juan Quintela
2017-05-19  6:48 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/6] migration: enable return-path " Peter Xu

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