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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Cornelia Huck <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	dhildenb@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/10] virtio-ccw: use vmstate way for config migration
Date: Fri, 19 May 2017 19:38:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170519183816.GT2081@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <644cabb4-44ed-3b49-4c03-35b7b2266882@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

* Halil Pasic (pasic@linux.vnet.ibm.com) wrote:
> 
> 
> On 05/19/2017 07:28 PM, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> >> To sum it up although I'm currently leaning towards abandoning my idea
> >> of two sections for two devices, I'm not comfortable with making the
> >> call myself. I'm hoping for some maintainer guidance (s390x, virtio
> >> and migration). 
> > <A couple of hours of reading, the CCW and PCI code, chatting with
> > dhildenb etc>
> > 
> > OK, so I think:
> >   a) First split the series into two separate series; one that
> > VMStatifies the existing stuff without breaking compatibility;
> > and one that adds the new stuff.  Lets get the first of those
> > going in while we think about the second.
> > 
> >     a.1) I'd do this with patches that convert one chunk into
> >      vmstate and remove the corresponding C code at the same time.
> > 
> >   b) While the way PCI devices are done is weird, I think it'll
> > be a lot simpler if you can stick to a structure that's similar
> > to them while diverging.  It's hard enough for those of us
> > who don't do Virtio every day to get our minds around virtio-pci
> > without it being different for virtio-ccw/css.
> > 
> >   c) To do (b) I suggest:
> >       c.1) you *don't* add a vmsd to your virtio_ccw_device
> > 
> >       c.2) but *do* add a VMSTATE_CCW_DEVICE to the start of any
> >          non-virtio devices you migrate (like each of the PCI devices
> >           have)
> > 
> >       c.3) You can add extra state for CSS to the ->save_extra_state
> >            handle on virtio devices or to the config
> > 
> >   d) vmstatifying the config is OK as well.
> > 
> > I should say I'm no virtio expert, so if any of that's truly
> > mad say so.
> > 
> > Dave
> > 
> 
> Agreed (a,b,c,d). Reorganizing my patch set according to a) is
> going to require some effort, but it should not be too bad. 
> About c.2): I don't think we have any migratable non virtio devices
> yet, but I'll keep it in mind.
> 
> I do not understand what you mean by c.3) and extra_sate. Maybe
> it will settle with time. My idea of extending VirtioCcwDevice
> is just adding subsections to it's VMStateDescription. The
> call vmstate_save_state(f, &vmstate_virtio_ccw_dev, dev, NULL)
> in save_config should take care of compatibility. Maybe some
> staring at virtio-pci is going to help, but right now I can't tell
> what's the extra_state for, and how/why is it 'extra'.

Yes adding extra subsections into the 'config' is probably fine;
but there's also another hook that Jason added, see a6df8adf3,
it's an existing subsection at the end of the virtio state
that can be linked for transport specific data.

Dave

> Thanks for your patience!
> 
> Regards,
> Halil
> 
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK

  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-19 18:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-05 17:34 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/10] migration: s390x css migration Halil Pasic
2017-05-05 17:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/10] s390x: add helper get_machine_class Halil Pasic
2017-05-05 17:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/10] s390x: add css_migration_enabled to machine class Halil Pasic
2017-05-05 17:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/10] s390x/css: add vmstate entities for css Halil Pasic
2017-05-08 16:45   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-09 12:00     ` Halil Pasic
2017-05-15 18:01       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-18 14:15         ` Halil Pasic
2017-05-19 14:55           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-19 15:08             ` Halil Pasic
2017-05-19 16:00             ` Halil Pasic
2017-05-19 17:43               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-19 16:33             ` Halil Pasic
2017-05-19 17:47               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-19 18:04                 ` Halil Pasic
2017-05-09 12:20     ` Halil Pasic
2017-05-05 17:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/10] s390x/css: add vmstate macro for CcwDevice Halil Pasic
2017-05-05 17:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/10] virtio-ccw: add vmstate entities for VirtioCcwDevice Halil Pasic
2017-05-05 17:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/10] virtio-ccw: use vmstate way for config migration Halil Pasic
2017-05-08 16:55   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-09 17:05     ` Halil Pasic
2017-05-10 10:31       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-10 10:38       ` Cornelia Huck
2017-05-08 17:36   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-08 17:53     ` Halil Pasic
2017-05-08 17:59       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-08 18:27         ` Halil Pasic
2017-05-08 18:42           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-10 11:52             ` Halil Pasic
2017-05-15 19:07               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-16 22:05                 ` Halil Pasic
2017-05-19 17:28                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-19 18:02                     ` Halil Pasic
2017-05-19 18:38                       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2017-05-05 17:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/10] s390x/css: remove unused subch_dev_(load|save) Halil Pasic
2017-05-05 17:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/10] s390x/css: add ORB to SubchDev Halil Pasic
2017-05-05 17:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/10] s390x/css: turn on channel subsystem migration Halil Pasic
2017-05-08 17:27   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-08 18:03     ` Halil Pasic
2017-05-08 18:37       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-05-09 17:27         ` Halil Pasic
2017-05-05 17:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/10] s390x/css: use SubchDev.orb Halil Pasic

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