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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: "Denis V. Lunev" <den@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: Anton Nefedov <anton.nefedov@virtuozzo.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, mreitz@redhat.com,
	"Denis V. Lunev" <den@openvz.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 01/13] qcow2: alloc space for COW in one chunk
Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 13:16:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170526111630.GG7211@noname.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2f0f5f9a-23b3-5f67-7675-ecdfe15cc187@virtuozzo.com>

Am 26.05.2017 um 10:57 hat Denis V. Lunev geschrieben:
> On 05/26/2017 11:11 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > It seems much clearer to me that simply unifying the three write
> > requests into a single one is an improvement. And it's easy to do, I
> > even had a patch once to do this. The reason that I didn't send it was
> > that it seemed to conflict with the data cache approach
> These changes help a lot on 2 patterns:
> - writing 4Kb into the middle of the block. The bigger the block size,
>   more we gain
> - sequential write, which is not sector aligned and comes in 2 requests:
>   we perform allocation, which should be significantly faster than actual
>   write and after that both parts of the write can be executed in parallel.
> At my opinion both cases are frequent and important.

Both cases are helped somewhat by reducing the number of I/O requests.
So as a first step, I really think we need to get Berto's patches ready
to be merged.

As for this series, there is one important restriction that you don't
mention: Both cases only benefit from the changes when there is no
backing file (or the backing file is sparse at the given cluster). The
main reason why people use qcow2 is for snapshots, so qcow2 without or
with an empty backing file is actually not my primary concern.

To be honest, I am concerned a bit by the additional complexity brought
in by this series (which also seemed to be more tacked on rather than
fully integrated at the first sight), but I'll have to study it in more
detail.


Maybe another thing to keep in mind is that the sequential write case
can completely avoid COW in theory. I wonder whether we should make
another attempt at this. Previously, it was the complexity of my own
prototypes that stopped me from actually merging them.

Kevin

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-05-26 11:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-19  9:34 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 00/13] qcow2: space preallocation and COW improvements Anton Nefedov
2017-05-19  9:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 01/13] qcow2: alloc space for COW in one chunk Anton Nefedov
2017-05-22 19:00   ` Eric Blake
2017-05-23  8:28     ` Anton Nefedov
2017-05-23  9:13     ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-05-26  8:11   ` Kevin Wolf
2017-05-26  8:57     ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-05-26 10:09       ` Anton Nefedov
2017-05-26 11:16       ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2017-05-26 10:57     ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-05-26 11:32       ` Kevin Wolf
2017-05-19  9:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 02/13] qcow2: is_zero_sectors(): return true if area is outside of backing file Anton Nefedov
2017-05-22 19:12   ` Eric Blake
2017-05-22 19:14     ` Eric Blake
2017-05-23  8:35       ` Anton Nefedov
2017-05-19  9:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 03/13] qcow2: do not COW the empty areas Anton Nefedov
2017-05-22 19:24   ` Eric Blake
2017-05-23  8:31     ` Anton Nefedov
2017-05-23  9:15     ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-05-19  9:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 04/13] qcow2: preallocation at image expand Anton Nefedov
2017-05-22 19:29   ` Eric Blake
2017-05-24 16:57     ` Anton Nefedov
2017-05-19  9:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 05/13] qcow2: set inactive flag Anton Nefedov
2017-05-26  8:11   ` Kevin Wolf
2017-05-31 16:56     ` Anton Nefedov
2017-05-19  9:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 06/13] qcow2: truncate preallocated space Anton Nefedov
2017-05-19  9:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 07/13] qcow2: check space leak at the end of the image Anton Nefedov
2017-05-19  9:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 08/13] qcow2: handle_prealloc(): find out if area zeroed by earlier preallocation Anton Nefedov
2017-05-19  9:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 09/13] qcow2: fix misleading comment about L2 linking Anton Nefedov
2017-05-19  9:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 10/13] qcow2-cluster: slightly refactor handle_dependencies() Anton Nefedov
2017-05-19  9:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 11/13] qcow2-cluster: make handle_dependencies() logic easier to follow Anton Nefedov
2017-05-22 19:37   ` Eric Blake
2017-05-19  9:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 12/13] qcow2: allow concurrent unaligned writes to the same clusters Anton Nefedov
2017-05-19  9:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 13/13] iotest 046: test simultaneous cluster write error case Anton Nefedov
2017-05-23 14:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v1 00/13] qcow2: space preallocation and COW improvements Eric Blake
2017-05-23 14:51   ` Denis V. Lunev

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