From: "Emilio G. Cota" <cota@braap.org>
To: Pranith Kumar <bobby.prani@gmail.com>
Cc: "Richard Henderson" <rth@twiddle.net>,
"Peter Maydell" <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] GSoC 2017 Proposal: TCG performance enhancements
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 13:13:20 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170606171320.GA8115@flamenco> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJhHMCBwu-pVAyxN+w8SSo19wi3DW3JCRRF-K1Sj9zYqGYkFvQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 12:52:35 -0400, Pranith Kumar wrote:
(snip)
> * Implement an LRU translation block code cache.
>
> In the current TCG design, when the translation cache fills up, we flush all
> the translated blocks (TBs) to free up space. We can improve this situation
> by not flushing the TBs that were recently used i.e., by implementing an LRU
> policy for freeing the blocks. This should avoid the re-translation overhead
> for frequently used blocks and improve performance.
I doubt this will yield any benefits because:
- I still have not found a workload where the performance bottleneck is
code retranslation due to unnecessary flushes (unless of course we
artificially restrict the size of code_gen_buffer.)
- To keep track of LRU you need at least one extra instruction on every
TB, e.g. to increase a counter or add a timestamp. This might be expensive
and possibly a scalability bottleneck (e.g. what to do when several
cores are executing the same TB?).
- tb_find_pc now does a simple binary search. This is easy because we
know that TB's are allocated from code_gen_buffer in order. If they
were out of order, we'd need another data structure (e.g. some sort of
tree) to have quick searches. This is not a fast path though so this
could be OK.
(snip)
> Please let me know if you have any comments or suggestions. Also please let me
> know if there are other enhancements that are easily implementable to increase
> TCG performance as part of this project or otherwise.
My not-necessarily-easy-to-implement wishlist would be:
- Reduction of tb_lock contention when booting many cores. For instance,
booting 64 aarch64 cores on a 64-core host shows quite a bit of contention (host
cores are 80% idle, i.e. waiting to acquire tb_lock); fortunately this is not a
big deal (e.g. 4s for booting 1 core vs. ~14s to boot 64) and anyway most
long-running workloads are cached a lot more effectively.
Still, it would make sense to consider the option of not going through tb_lock
etc. (via a private cache? or simply not caching at all) for code that is not
executed many times. Another option is to translate privately, and only acquire
tb_lock to copy the translated code to the shared buffer.
- Instrumentation. I think QEMU should have a good interface to enable
dynamic binary instrumentation. This has many uses and in fact there
are quite a few forks of QEMU doing this.
I think Lluís Vilanova's work [1] is a good start to eventually get
something upstream.
Emilio
[1] https://projects.gso.ac.upc.edu/projects/qemu-dbi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-06-06 17:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-25 16:52 [Qemu-devel] GSoC 2017 Proposal: TCG performance enhancements Pranith Kumar
2017-03-27 10:57 ` Richard Henderson
2017-03-27 13:22 ` Alex Bennée
2017-03-28 3:03 ` Pranith Kumar
2017-03-28 3:09 ` Pranith Kumar
2017-03-28 10:03 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-06-02 23:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] tcg: allocate TB structs before the corresponding translated code Emilio G. Cota
2017-06-04 17:47 ` Richard Henderson
2017-03-27 11:32 ` [Qemu-devel] GSoC 2017 Proposal: TCG performance enhancements Paolo Bonzini
2017-03-28 3:07 ` Pranith Kumar
2017-03-27 15:54 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-03-27 17:13 ` Pranith Kumar
2017-06-06 17:13 ` Emilio G. Cota [this message]
2017-06-07 10:15 ` Alex Bennée
2017-06-07 11:12 ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-06-07 12:07 ` Peter Maydell
2017-06-07 13:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-06-07 15:52 ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-06-07 16:09 ` Alex Bennée
2017-06-07 17:07 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-06-07 15:45 ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-06-07 16:17 ` Peter Maydell
2017-06-07 22:49 ` Emilio G. Cota
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