From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
Cc: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
quintela@redhat.com, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
jdenemar@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] unplug_request and migration
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 20:03:36 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170609100336.GJ26521@umbus.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170609110748.00c8e419@nial.brq.redhat.com>
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On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 11:09:10AM +0200, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> On Fri, 9 Jun 2017 00:41:06 +1000
> David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> wrote:
>
> > Hi Dave & Juan,
> >
> > I'm hoping one of you can answer this.
> >
> > I'm currently grappling with (amongst other things) a pseries machine
> > racing a hot unplug operation with a migrate. There's various issues
> > with what interim state we need, and which bits of it need to be
> > migrated that I'm still investigating. But, there's a more general
> > question that I'm guessing must have already been addressed for x86.
> >
> > For any "soft" unplug device - i.e. using ->unplug_request, rather
> > than ->unplug, giving a device_del command will just ask the guest
> > nicely to release the device, with the completion of the unplug
> > happening only if and when the guest indicates it's ready for the
> > device to go away. AFAICT, the device_del command will return as soon
> > as the request is made, but if the guest is busy, the completion of
> > the hot unplug could take arbitrarily long.
> >
> > So, what happens if there's a migration in between the unplug_request
> > and the guest completing the unplug? How does libvirt (or whatever)
> > know whether to include the device on the destination machine command
> > line?
> >
>
> looking at qdev_unplug():
> if (!migration_is_idle()) {
> error_setg(errp, "device_del not allowed while migrating");
> return;
> }
>
> so unplug request should fail if migration is in progress , it won't reach guest
> and mgmt side will have to repeat request on migration completion.
>
> But it's still possible to issue unplug request first and then start
> migration,
Right, that's the case I'm interested in, not the other way around.
> that's where race between DEVICE_DELETED and migration start (starting DST with
> being unplugged device) occurs.
>
> it could be possible:
> 1: on unplug_request() set global flag that there is pending unplug and forbid
> migration until completion. But there is no guarantee that unplug will
> be completed nor a way to notice that it's failed/rejected by guest.
> I'm not sure how that could be solved.
> 2: set per device pending_unplug flag and delay unplug event from guest
> until migration is completed if migration is in progress when unplug
> callback is called.
> mgmt will treat the case as usual migration, i.e. start dst with being
> unplugged device, and device will be removed on dst side on migration
> completion.
> (it should be generic solution as x86 is also affected), as place where
> to put this common logic I'd suggest hotplug_handler_unplug()
So.. it seems like the short version is that racing migration and
unplug is broken already.
Which is unfortunate, but at least means I don't need to worry about
it particularly for Power.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-06-09 10:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-06-08 14:41 [Qemu-devel] unplug_request and migration David Gibson
2017-06-08 15:10 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-06-08 15:44 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-06-08 16:07 ` Juan Quintela
2017-06-09 9:09 ` Igor Mammedov
2017-06-09 10:03 ` David Gibson [this message]
2017-06-09 12:18 ` Juan Quintela
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