From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:44058) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dUwN4-0000jb-33 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 11 Jul 2017 10:42:39 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dUwN0-00007M-6u for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 11 Jul 2017 10:42:38 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:37424) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dUwN0-00006r-0F for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Tue, 11 Jul 2017 10:42:34 -0400 Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2017 16:42:15 +0200 From: Kevin Wolf Message-ID: <20170711144215.GI4335@noname.str.redhat.com> References: <5233eee1-a017-ccae-3458-762c9e86902c@redhat.com> <20170707133949.GH10776@localhost.localdomain> <20170707181642-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> <20170707180358.GA12152@localhost.localdomain> <626ce419-8418-a4a2-88d3-b61bf20bbb32@redhat.com> <20170710135943.GG12152@localhost.localdomain> <20170710194345-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> <20170710174730.GL12152@localhost.localdomain> <063778b8-d517-dcac-3c83-95076604a16c@redhat.com> <1499760785.8257.5.camel@redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1499760785.8257.5.camel@redhat.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] change x86 default machine type to Q35? List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: Gerd Hoffmann Cc: Thomas Huth , Eduardo Habkost , "Michael S. Tsirkin" , "Tian, Kevin" , libvir-list@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Paolo Bonzini , Marcel Apfelbaum , Chao Peng , Laszlo Ersek Am 11.07.2017 um 10:13 hat Gerd Hoffmann geschrieben: > Hi, >=20 > >=A0Concerning QEMU, could we maybe simply emit a warning a la > >=20 > > =A0"you did not specify a machine type with the -M option, so you are > > =A0 currently running the the 'pc' machine type. Please note that > > future > > =A0 versions of QEMU might use the 'q35' machine type instead. If you > > =A0 require the 'pc' machine type for your setting, then please speci= fy > > =A0 it with the -M option." >=20 > Warnings tend to get ignored until things are actually break, so I > don't think this helps much. I think simply not having a default > machine type (as already suggested elsewhere in this thread) is the > best way to deal with this. I would absolutely hate this. One of the nice things about qemu has always been that 'qemu disk.img' is enough to start a simple VM. You only need to touch any other options for things you care about. I wouldn't want to give this up. Kevin