From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
To: Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>
Cc: pbonzini@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/5] Introduce "-object iothread-group"
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:40:37 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170712104037.GH6923@stefanha-x1.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170711151421.GA7449@lemon>
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On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 11:14:21PM +0800, Fam Zheng wrote:
> On Tue, 07/11 15:15, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 03:20:22PM +0800, Fam Zheng wrote:
> > > Last time we've looked at "-object iothread,spawns=N" but it was a bit abusive.
> > > A dedicated "iothread-group" class is cleaner from the interface point of view.
> > > This series does that.
> > >
> > > It has the same set of poll parameters as the existing "iothread" object, plus
> > > a "size" option to specify how many threads to start. Using iothread-group
> > > doesn't require the user to explicitly create the contained IOThreads. The
> > > IOThreads are created by the group object.
> > >
> > > Internally, IOThreads share one AioContext. This is to make it easier to adapt
> > > this to the current data plane code (see the last patch). But it is an
> > > implementation detail, and will change depending on the block layer multiqueue
> > > needs.
> > >
> > > TODO:
> > >
> > > - qmp_query_iothread_groups, in addition to proper QOM @child property from
> > > IOThreadGroup to its IOThread instances.
> > > - Add virtio-scsi.
> > > - Variant of iothread_stop_all().
> > >
> > > Fam Zheng (5):
> > > aio: Wrap poll parameters into AioContextPollParams
> > > iothread: Don't error on windows
> > > iothread: Extract iothread_start
> > > Introduce iothread-group
> > > virtio-blk: Add iothread-group property
> >
> > From your TODO note above it looks like you plan to duplicate IOThread
> > interfaces for IOThreadGroup? This means existing query-iothreads users
> > no longer see the full view of all IOThreads.
> >
> > I think it would be cleaner to define and query IOThreads like they are
> > today but change virtio-blk/virtio-scsi to accept a list of IOThreads.
>
> That way the groups are formed passively and I'm not sure if it is better for
> users/tools to manage in the long run. Consider this syntax:
>
> -object iothread,id=iot0 \
> -object iothread,id=iot1 \
> -object iothread,id=iot2 \
> -device virtio-blk-pci,id=vblk0,iothread.0=iot0,iothread.1=iot1 \
> -device virtio-blk-pci,id=vblk1,iothread.0=iot1,iothread.1=iot2
>
> where vblk0 uses iot0 and iot1 and vblk1 uses iot1 and iot2. There is a
> intersection between the two groups. IMO it is less clean compared to the
> rule set by an explicit syntax:
>
> -object iothread-group,id=iotg0,size=4 \
> -object iothread-group,id=iotg1,size=4 \
> -device virtio-blk-pci,id=vblk0,iothread-group=iotg0 \
> -device virtio-blk-pci,id=vblk1,iothread-group=iotg1 \
>
>
> Also I have not idea how easy it is to add a "list of links" qdev property. I
> remember there was some related work in progress, but I've lost the pointers.
>
> > That way existing management tool functionality can be used and the only
> > tweak is that devices can now be added to multiple IOThreads.
>
> Another way could be to still include any IOThreads created by IOThreadGroup in
> "query-iothreads" output, and add a "group name" property so users know the
> groupings.
>
> >
> > It would be nice to express the group relationship in QOM instead of
> > open coding a new group object. The majority of the RFC code creates a
> > child/link list relationship that QOM should support for any type, not
> > just IOThread.
>
> Sounds fine, but I'm not sure what exactly you have in mind (I think it is
> extending QOM). Can you elaborate?
I thought about it after sending this email. Here is a follow-up that
gets into the QOM details:
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2017-07/msg02799.html
Stefan
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Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-07-10 7:20 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/5] Introduce "-object iothread-group" Fam Zheng
2017-07-10 7:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 1/5] aio: Wrap poll parameters into AioContextPollParams Fam Zheng
2017-07-11 13:34 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-07-10 7:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 2/5] iothread: Don't error on windows Fam Zheng
2017-07-11 13:35 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-07-10 7:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 3/5] iothread: Extract iothread_start Fam Zheng
2017-07-11 13:37 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-07-10 7:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 4/5] Introduce iothread-group Fam Zheng
2017-07-11 13:48 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-07-12 8:44 ` Fam Zheng
2017-07-10 7:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 5/5] virtio-blk: Add iothread-group property Fam Zheng
2017-07-10 7:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/5] Introduce "-object iothread-group" Fam Zheng
2017-07-11 14:15 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-07-11 15:14 ` Fam Zheng
2017-07-12 10:40 ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2017-07-11 14:58 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-07-12 11:06 ` Fam Zheng
2017-07-14 13:18 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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