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From: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel@redhat.com>,
	Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3] hw/i386: Deprecate the machines pc-0.10 to pc-1.2
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 17:26:00 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170712202600.GO6020@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170712150400.GH5237@redhat.com>

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 04:04:00PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 10:22:33AM +0200, Thomas Huth wrote:
> > We don't want to carry along old machine types forever. If we are able to
> > remove the pc machines up to 0.13 one day for example, this would allow
> > us to eventually kill the code for rombar=0 (i.e. where QEMU copies ROM
> > BARs directly to low memory). Everything up to pc-1.2 is also known to
> > have issues with migration.  So let's start with a deprecation message
> > for the old machine types so that the (hopefully) few users of these old
> > systems start switching over to newer machine types instead.
> 
> I think we must document & agree on our support policy for machine
> types, before we start marking them as deprecated. eg please consider
> the following document before accepting this deprecation patch:
> 
>  https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2017-07/msg00652.html
> 
> Note in that proposal there, I say we do *not* go through trouble of
> explicitly marking machines as deprecated. We just document upfront
> the intended lifecycle and then delete them when it is done.
> 
> Just use deprecation warnings for things where there is no predictable
> lifecycle upfront.

I'd bet most people won't read the deprecation policy
documentation, and a deprecation warning for 1 or 2 releases
would be still useful before we finally remove a machine-type.

-- 
Eduardo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-07-12 20:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-12  8:22 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3] hw/i386: Deprecate the machines pc-0.10 to pc-1.2 Thomas Huth
2017-07-12 13:31 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-07-12 14:51 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-07-12 15:17   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-12 20:15     ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-07-12 20:31       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-12 20:56         ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-07-12 22:27           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-13  0:23             ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-07-13  0:45               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-13  0:47               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-13 15:17               ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-07-13 15:34                 ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-07-13 22:41                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-14 15:40                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-07-13 15:24       ` Eric Blake
2017-07-12 15:45   ` Markus Armbruster
2017-07-12 17:48     ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-07-12 15:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-07-12 16:00   ` Thomas Huth
2017-07-12 16:12     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-07-12 16:23       ` Thomas Huth
2017-07-12 16:32         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-07-12 16:23       ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-07-12 16:29         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-07-12 20:37           ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-07-13 23:14           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-14 16:33             ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-07-12 20:26   ` Eduardo Habkost [this message]
2017-07-13  0:30 ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-07-13  0:47   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-13  1:02     ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-07-13  1:00 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-13 15:20   ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-07-13 23:04     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-07-14  5:37       ` Thomas Huth
2017-07-14  9:50       ` Gerd Hoffmann

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