From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
Cc: qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>,
Yi Min Zhao <zyimin@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH/s390-next 2/3] s390x/cpumodel: add zpci, aen and ais facilities
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 15:15:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170713151528.20b2c7fd@gondolin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7c76ac27-aca5-e5af-5e78-45fe9865c6c8@de.ibm.com>
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 15:11:15 +0200
Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com> wrote:
> On 07/13/2017 03:06 PM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> > On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:29:55 +0200
> > Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 07/13/2017 02:11 PM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> >> diff --git a/target/s390x/kvm.c b/target/s390x/kvm.c
> >>>> index 78ebe83..1901153 100644
> >>>> --- a/target/s390x/kvm.c
> >>>> +++ b/target/s390x/kvm.c
> >>>> @@ -302,6 +302,9 @@ int kvm_arch_init(MachineState *ms, KVMState *s)
> >>>> }
> >>>> }
> >>>>
> >>>> + /* Try to enable AIS facility */
> >>>> + kvm_vm_enable_cap(s, KVM_CAP_S390_AIS, 0);
> >>>
> >>> What happens if you fail to enable it? You probably don't want to allow
> >>> the feature bit, then?
> >>
> >> Then this bit is off. This call will enable it in the kernel, if that fails
> >> the kernel will return this bit as disabled.
> >
> > Looked at the kernel code again. I thought there was more to it, but I
> > misremembered. No further complaints here.
> >
> >>>
> >>>> +
> >>>> qemu_mutex_init(&qemu_sigp_mutex);
> >>>>
> >>>> return 0;
> >>>
> >>> Let's summarize to make sure that I'm not confused:
> >>>
> >>> - Starting with zEC12 GA1, we provide zpci, aen, ais in the full model
> >> yes
> >>
> >>> - Starting with zEC12 GA1, we provide zpci and aen in the default model
> >> yes. ais has to be enabled manually for z12 and z13.
> >> The alternative is to have ais as part of the default model. This has the big
> >> disadvantage that -cpu zEC12 and -cpu z13 will stop working for all available
> >> distro kernels. I believe that a working -cpu z13 is more important than the
> >> need to manually enable ais.
> >
> > Agreed.
> >
> >> For the future
> >> - We can make ais part of the default model for a future system when that happens since
> >> the features for a new system will require a new host kernel anyway
> >
> > Sounds fine.
> >
> >> - We can also make ais part of the default model for a future machine type (e.g. 2.13)
> >> when we believe that the world has moved on to a newer kernel
> >
> > I'd rather avoid relying on that.
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>> - In the host model, we add zpci and aen; they might be switched off
> >>> after applying the found model
> >>
> >> We also get ais from the kernel, so the host model will have zpci,ais and
> >> aen
> >>
> >>> - Compat for 2.9 and earlier switches off zpci, aen, ais
> >>
> >> yes
> >>
> >>> - We unconditionally enable the kvm part of ais
> >>
> >> We tell the KVM code in the kernel to enable the facility bit (before the cpu
> >> model might take it way) and if QEMU really uses ais, that the kernel does
> >> the right thing then
> >
> > Yeah, that's fine, see above.
> >
> >>>
> >>> I'm still not sure what's supposed to happen with new qemu + old kernel
> >>> (no ais) + full zEC12 GA1 or later model.
> >>
> >> We enable aen and zpci, but disable ais for that guest. In theory a guest
> >> can drive PCI devices without AIS. This is a valid configuration since zpci
> >> does not require ais.
> >
> > Yes, also fine. Looking at the kernel code cleared things up :)
> >
> >> The fact that Linux requires ais to use PCI is unfortunate but that could
> >> be "fixed" Linux if necessary.
> >
> > I'm not sure there's a need for this. Once a change like this has
> > landed in distro kernels, the same distros will also have the ais
> > changes in their hypervisor kernels.
> >
> > Thanks for spelling things out again, this stuff always gives me a
> > headache.
>
> Assuming that I will keep the return because I like Halils explanation of
> "I'm in favor of 3 (keeping) as the resulting code is cleaner:
> it does not make any sense to 'continue realizing', even if
> 'continue realizing' and set a correct ais_supported just
> to fail later does not hurt.
> "
>
> Is that an Acked-by or Reviewed-by ?
>
_This_ is an R-b ;)
Reviewed-by: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-07-13 13:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-07-13 10:40 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH/s390-next 0/3] s390x: remaining pci related fixes Christian Borntraeger
2017-07-13 10:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH/s390-next 1/3] s390x: initialize cpu firstly Christian Borntraeger
2017-07-13 11:55 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-07-13 10:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH/s390-next 2/3] s390x/cpumodel: add zpci, aen and ais facilities Christian Borntraeger
2017-07-13 12:11 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-07-13 12:29 ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-07-13 13:06 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-07-13 13:11 ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-07-13 13:15 ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2017-07-13 12:41 ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-07-13 12:57 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-07-13 13:07 ` Halil Pasic
2017-07-13 10:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH/s390-next 3/3] s390x/flic: migrate ais states Christian Borntraeger
2017-07-13 12:27 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-07-13 13:02 ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-07-13 13:10 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-07-13 13:41 ` Halil Pasic
2017-07-13 13:58 ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-07-13 14:01 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-07-13 13:18 ` Halil Pasic
2017-07-13 14:49 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-07-13 15:05 ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-07-13 15:11 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-07-13 15:45 ` Halil Pasic
2017-07-13 15:54 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-07-18 10:31 ` Juan Quintela
2017-07-18 14:07 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-07-18 18:24 ` Halil Pasic
2017-07-13 15:27 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-07-13 10:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH/s390-next 0/3] s390x: remaining pci related fixes Christian Borntraeger
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