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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>,
	Yi Min Zhao <zyimin@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>, Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH/s390-next 3/3] s390x/flic: migrate ais states
Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 16:54:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170713155437.GF2121@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1a32d619-0b5b-fe11-36b4-94ef6bdcb331@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

* Halil Pasic (pasic@linux.vnet.ibm.com) wrote:
> 
> 
> On 07/13/2017 05:11 PM, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > * Christian Borntraeger (borntraeger@de.ibm.com) wrote:
> >> On 07/13/2017 04:49 PM, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> >>> * Halil Pasic (pasic@linux.vnet.ibm.com) wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 07/13/2017 02:27 PM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> >>>>>> +static void kvm_flic_ais_pre_save(void *opaque)
> >>>>>> +{
> >>>>>> +    KVMS390FLICStateMigTmp *tmp = opaque;
> >>>>>> +    KVMS390FLICState *flic = tmp->parent;
> >>>>>> +    struct kvm_s390_ais_all ais;
> >>>>>> +    struct kvm_device_attr attr = {
> >>>>>> +        .group = KVM_DEV_FLIC_AISM_ALL,
> >>>>>> +        .addr = (uint64_t)&ais,
> >>>>>> +        .attr = sizeof(ais),
> >>>>>> +    };
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +    if (ioctl(flic->fd, KVM_GET_DEVICE_ATTR, &attr)) {
> >>>>>> +        error_report("Failed to retrieve kvm flic ais states");
> >>>>> There's not much else we can do in that case, is there?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I think this is a very good question! The ioctl should not fail
> >>>> under any circumstances, but if it does we have a problem.
> >>>>
> >>>> Carrying on happily (what we do now) means effectively discarding
> >>>> ais state. In general just discarding state ain't a good idea.
> >>>>
> >>>> In particular it might be OK, but the patch should explain that!
> >>>>
> >>>> Regarding what could/should we do in such a case (instead
> >>>> of discarding state and carrying on happily) I don't know, so
> >>>> I tend to agree with you regarding 'not much else we can do'.
> >>>>
> >>>> Adding Dave and Juan. Maybe they can tell.
> >>>
> >>> I keep meaning to make the pre_save give a return value for failure,
> >>> but it hasn't currently got one.
> >>
> >> Would you accept patches for that?
> > 
> > Sure.
> > 
> >>>
> >>> You could try something like:
> >>>
> >>>   qemu_file_set_error(migrate_get_current()->to_dst_file, -EINVAL);
> 
> @Dave:
> Thanks Dave! I was not aware of that! Had a quick look at the
> code, I think qemu_file_set_error would indeed do the right thing.
> 
> I would prefer error handling being part of the pre_save interface,
> because that would be easier to understand, and would provoke thinking
> about these problems.
> 
> @Christian:
> Would you like to implement 'return value for pre_save'
> yourself? I mean, I the meanwhile I'm familiar with the code in question
> and I enjoy working with Dave and Juan, so if you aren't interested in
> doing it yourself but think it's important enough to get it done, I could
> take it too?
> 
> @Dave:
> There are a couple of questions I'm gonna have to ask/investigate should
> it be me doing the 'return value for pre_save' (also notes to myself):
> 
> Would you see this error handling via pre_save as a parallel infrastructure
> (keep the current qemu_file_set_error mechanism) or would you prefer
> things converted? IMHO having a single method would be cleaner, but I
> have not looked into this in great detail.

The only thing I'd like to change is make pre_save be:
  int (*pre_save)(void *opaque)

  rather than void.
If there are any current pre_save's that call set_error or assert or
anything like that then they could be converted, but I don't think there
are many.

> Also the question what is the semantic of qemu_file_set_error arises.
> It ain't documented and I would intuitively suspect that it's rather
> about the 'file' (that is transport) than the whole migration.

It's really an internal interface in migration (where it's not
very nice either); but really it shouldn't be used for anything else.

Dave
> 
> 
> >>>
> >>>   I *think* the migration code should spot that before it finishes
> >>> but it might carry on for a little while before it does.
> >>
> >> I will keep this patch as is, since this is one of the "should not happen"
> >> cases.
> 
> @Christian
> I'm OK with it, because knowing the kernel code behind the ioctl
> this is really unlikely and even if it should happen the risks involved
> are rather limited. But I would be much happier if all such
> cases would result in refusing migration.
> 
> Regards,
> Halil
> 
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-13 15:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-13 10:40 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH/s390-next 0/3] s390x: remaining pci related fixes Christian Borntraeger
2017-07-13 10:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH/s390-next 1/3] s390x: initialize cpu firstly Christian Borntraeger
2017-07-13 11:55   ` Cornelia Huck
2017-07-13 10:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH/s390-next 2/3] s390x/cpumodel: add zpci, aen and ais facilities Christian Borntraeger
2017-07-13 12:11   ` Cornelia Huck
2017-07-13 12:29     ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-07-13 13:06       ` Cornelia Huck
2017-07-13 13:11         ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-07-13 13:15           ` Cornelia Huck
2017-07-13 12:41     ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-07-13 12:57       ` Cornelia Huck
2017-07-13 13:07         ` Halil Pasic
2017-07-13 10:40 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH/s390-next 3/3] s390x/flic: migrate ais states Christian Borntraeger
2017-07-13 12:27   ` Cornelia Huck
2017-07-13 13:02     ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-07-13 13:10       ` Cornelia Huck
2017-07-13 13:41         ` Halil Pasic
2017-07-13 13:58         ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-07-13 14:01           ` Cornelia Huck
2017-07-13 13:18     ` Halil Pasic
2017-07-13 14:49       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-07-13 15:05         ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-07-13 15:11           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-07-13 15:45             ` Halil Pasic
2017-07-13 15:54               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2017-07-18 10:31               ` Juan Quintela
2017-07-18 14:07                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-07-18 18:24                 ` Halil Pasic
2017-07-13 15:27           ` Cornelia Huck
2017-07-13 10:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH/s390-next 0/3] s390x: remaining pci related fixes Christian Borntraeger

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