From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: "Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
"Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@gmail.com>,
"Emilio G. Cota" <cota@braap.org>,
"Lluís Vilanova" <vilanova@ac.upc.edu>,
"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] instrument: Add basic event instrumentation
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 16:45:35 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170727154535.GY2555@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA-eH7J+fFXYgFo6Wx58zgD8=kqhrGE5BqR+NrhHjipsFw@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 04:33:01PM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 27 July 2017 at 16:21, Daniel P. Berrange <berrange@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 11:54:29AM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote:
> >> That said, yes, I was going to ask if we could do this via
> >> leveraging the tracepoint infrastructure and whatever scripting
> >> facilities it provides. Are there any good worked examples of
> >> this sort of thing? Can you do it as an ordinary non-root user?
> >
> > Do you have a particular thing you'd like to see an example of ?
> >
> > To dynamically probe a function which doesn't have a tracepoint
> > defined you can do:
> >
> > probe process("/usr/bin/qemu-x86_64").function("helper_syscall") {
> > printf("syscall stasrt\n")
> > }
> >
> > but getting access to the function args is not as easy as with
> > pre-defined tracepoints.
>
> How do I go about actually running that script? What I
> have in mind by "worked example" is something like a blog
> post that says "ok, here's a problem, we want to find out
> what QEMU is doing in situation X, here's how you do this
> with $TRACING_THINGY" and generally steps you through how
> it works assuming you know nothing at all about whatever
> the tracing facility you're using is.
Ok, so something like this example that I wrote for libvirt a
while back then
https://www.berrange.com/posts/2011/11/30/watching-the-libvirt-rpc-protocol-using-systemtap/
> > You can't typically run this as root,
>
> Do you mean "non-root" ?
Sigh, yes, of course.
> > however, I don't think that's a
> > huge issue, because most QEMU deployments are not running as your own
> > user account anyway, so you can't directly interact with them no
> > matter what.
>
> It is important, because almost all uses of TCG QEMU are
> running it from the command line as non-root normal users,
> especially if they're trying to debug what's going on with a
> guest binary. So any tracing solution for this kind of usecase
> must work without requiring root access, I think.
None of the Linux integrated tracing tools allow direct non-root access
afaik. systemtap has ability to launch probes as non-root, via a privileged
daemon, but it is restricted to probe scripts that the administrator has
pre-defined.
That pretty much leaves re-building QEMU, LD_PRELOADS, or something
ptrace(), or qemu's built-in simpletrace feature, as the remaining
options. We have a scripts/simpletrace.py that lets you load a
trace file into python and process it, but as written that's aimed
as post-processing a tracefile you've previously collected.
It would be desirable to write a more advanced simpletrace python
module that could collect & process the trace data live, and also
interact with the qemu monitor to change what events are enabled
dynamically. Basically we'd need a way for the simpletrace backend
to output its data to a fifo, instead of creating an file on disk,
then you could dynanically consume it.
Regards,
Daniel
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Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-07-24 17:02 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] instrument: Add basic event instrumentation Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-24 17:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/13] instrument: Add documentation Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-24 17:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/13] instrument: [none] Add null instrumentation mode Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-24 17:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/13] instrument: [dynamic] Add dynamic " Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-24 17:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/13] instrument: Allow adding the "instrument" property without modifying event files Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-24 17:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/13] instrument: [dynamic] Add default public per-event functions Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-24 17:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/13] instrument: Add event control interface Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-24 17:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/13] instrument: Add generic command line library loader Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-24 17:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/13] instrument: [linux-user] Add " Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-24 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/13] instrument: [bsd-user] " Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-24 17:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/13] instrument: [softmmu] " Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-24 17:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/13] instrument: [qapi] Add " Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-24 18:03 ` Eric Blake
2017-07-25 8:24 ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-25 11:30 ` Eric Blake
2017-07-25 11:51 ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-24 17:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/13] instrument: [hmp] " Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-24 17:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/13] trace: Rename C++-specific names in event arguments Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-25 13:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] instrument: Add basic event instrumentation Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-07-25 13:30 ` Peter Maydell
2017-07-25 15:11 ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-26 11:22 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-07-26 12:44 ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-27 10:32 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-07-27 10:40 ` Peter Maydell
2017-07-28 13:42 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-07-28 16:21 ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-08-02 11:04 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-07-26 11:26 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-07-26 11:49 ` Peter Maydell
2017-07-26 12:26 ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-27 10:43 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-07-27 10:54 ` Peter Maydell
2017-07-27 14:58 ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-27 15:21 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-07-27 15:33 ` Peter Maydell
2017-07-27 15:45 ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2017-07-28 13:34 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-07-28 13:41 ` Peter Maydell
2017-07-28 14:06 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-07-28 16:05 ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-08-01 13:48 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-08-01 13:54 ` Peter Maydell
2017-08-02 11:04 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-08-02 11:10 ` Peter Maydell
2017-08-02 14:49 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-08-02 15:19 ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-08-03 11:54 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-08-26 0:14 ` Emilio G. Cota
2017-08-26 0:02 ` Emilio G. Cota
2017-08-29 9:19 ` Peter Maydell
2017-07-28 13:52 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-07-28 16:14 ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-08-01 13:13 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-07-28 15:10 ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-27 19:55 ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-25 14:47 ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-26 11:29 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-07-26 12:31 ` Lluís Vilanova
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