From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: "Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@gmail.com>,
"Lluís Vilanova" <vilanova@ac.upc.edu>,
"Alessandro Di Federico" <ale+qemu@clearmind.me>,
"Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
"Emilio G. Cota" <cota@braap.org>,
"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] instrument: Add basic event instrumentation
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 15:49:43 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170802144943.GF10101@stefanha-x1.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA82EBmOF3k=fXN4tAAL2=J6s8avUoQGXKrBwchh1rmMCQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 12:10:14PM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 2 August 2017 at 12:04, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 01, 2017 at 02:54:29PM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote:
> >> and I don't need the TCG engine to be a library to do that...
> >
> > You do need TCG APIs if you want TCG-level instrumentation, tuning
> > options, callbacks, etc.
>
> I need an API; that doesn't necessarily look like the kind
> of API you want to be able to embed the TCG engine into
> other things, I think.
>
> >> I agree that we want to provide something that is at least
> >> closer to a stable API than "just expose trace events",
> >> though.
> >
> > libqemu has at least three parts:
> >
> > 1. VM API (i.e. qemu_init(argc, argv), qemu_run(), qemu_vcpu_get_reg32())
> > 2. TCG engine
> > 3. Device models
> >
> > Like I said in my email, start with what matters for the instrumentation
> > use case (VM API at a minimum to control guest execution). Other people
> > can flesh out the other parts later, as needed.
> >
> > Other attempts to provide a stable API will be essentially the same
> > thing as libqemu.
>
> I don't think this is the case -- you could have a stable
> instrumentation API without it looking anything like
> libqemu. In particular I don't think you need to have
> something that sits at the top level and says 'run'.
>
> In particular I think that pulling TCG out of QEMU
> is an enormous and painful undertaking that you just
> don't need to do at all to allow this kind of
> instrumentation API.
Please post an example of the API you'd like.
Stefan
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Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-07-24 17:02 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] instrument: Add basic event instrumentation Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-24 17:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/13] instrument: Add documentation Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-24 17:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/13] instrument: [none] Add null instrumentation mode Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-24 17:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/13] instrument: [dynamic] Add dynamic " Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-24 17:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/13] instrument: Allow adding the "instrument" property without modifying event files Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-24 17:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/13] instrument: [dynamic] Add default public per-event functions Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-24 17:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/13] instrument: Add event control interface Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-24 17:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/13] instrument: Add generic command line library loader Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-24 17:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/13] instrument: [linux-user] Add " Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-24 17:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/13] instrument: [bsd-user] " Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-24 17:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/13] instrument: [softmmu] " Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-24 17:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/13] instrument: [qapi] Add " Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-24 18:03 ` Eric Blake
2017-07-25 8:24 ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-25 11:30 ` Eric Blake
2017-07-25 11:51 ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-24 17:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/13] instrument: [hmp] " Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-24 17:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/13] trace: Rename C++-specific names in event arguments Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-25 13:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/13] instrument: Add basic event instrumentation Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-07-25 13:30 ` Peter Maydell
2017-07-25 15:11 ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-26 11:22 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-07-26 12:44 ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-27 10:32 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-07-27 10:40 ` Peter Maydell
2017-07-28 13:42 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-07-28 16:21 ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-08-02 11:04 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-07-26 11:26 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-07-26 11:49 ` Peter Maydell
2017-07-26 12:26 ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-27 10:43 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-07-27 10:54 ` Peter Maydell
2017-07-27 14:58 ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-27 15:21 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-07-27 15:33 ` Peter Maydell
2017-07-27 15:45 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-07-28 13:34 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-07-28 13:41 ` Peter Maydell
2017-07-28 14:06 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-07-28 16:05 ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-08-01 13:48 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-08-01 13:54 ` Peter Maydell
2017-08-02 11:04 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-08-02 11:10 ` Peter Maydell
2017-08-02 14:49 ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2017-08-02 15:19 ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-08-03 11:54 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-08-26 0:14 ` Emilio G. Cota
2017-08-26 0:02 ` Emilio G. Cota
2017-08-29 9:19 ` Peter Maydell
2017-07-28 13:52 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-07-28 16:14 ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-08-01 13:13 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-07-28 15:10 ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-27 19:55 ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-25 14:47 ` Lluís Vilanova
2017-07-26 11:29 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-07-26 12:31 ` Lluís Vilanova
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