From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43223) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dnObG-0001GJ-73 for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2017 08:29:35 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dnObD-0000HM-0C for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2017 08:29:34 -0400 Received: from mx1.redhat.com ([209.132.183.28]:53082) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dnObC-0000E0-QA for qemu-devel@nongnu.org; Thu, 31 Aug 2017 08:29:30 -0400 Received: from smtp.corp.redhat.com (int-mx06.intmail.prod.int.phx2.redhat.com [10.5.11.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEE3F81245 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2017 12:29:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from redhat.com (unknown [10.42.22.189]) by smtp.corp.redhat.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7A8F59D5FB for ; Thu, 31 Aug 2017 12:29:28 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 13:29:25 +0100 From: "Daniel P. Berrange" Message-ID: <20170831122925.GJ17315@redhat.com> Reply-To: "Daniel P. Berrange" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Subject: [Qemu-devel] RFC: changing ROM bundling in tar dists for releases List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: qemu-devel@nongnu.org A while back now I posted an RFC patch that changes qemu-X.Y.Z.tar.bz2 archive to *not* have any ROMs or 3rd party libs bundled, and create a new dist qemu-bundled-X.Y.Z.tar.bz2 for the fully bundled dist: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2017-04/msg03335.html With 2.10 out of the way, and KVM Forum approaching, I figure now is a reasonable time to revive the idea to see if it has support The core issues I'm aiming to solve are: - Distro vendors don't want the bundled ROMs / libs. They want to fully build everything from source to ensure they are distributing clean soure & builds in compliance with the licenses. Currently they strip bundled bits from the build tree, but would prefer if the source dist did not have them either. - The qemu release dists get ever larger as we add more ROMS. Adding EFI ROM builds for i386, x86_64, and aarch64 will make the dists larger still. There are the following options I see 1. Keep existing dist, and add a new minimal one qemu-X.Y.Z.tar.bz2 - qemu source + bundled ROMS + libs qemu-minimal-X.Y.Z.tar.bz2 - qemu source only Least impact for current non-distro users, distros just switch. 2. Change existing dist, and add a new one with everything qemu-X.Y.Z.tar.bz2 - qemu source only qemu-full-X.Y.Z.tar.bz2 - qemu source + bundled ROMS + libs Non-distro users need to download a different dist from what they have known previously, but otherwise unchanged build process. 3. Change existing dist, and add a new one with bundled bits qemu-X.Y.Z.tar.bz2 - qemu source only qemu-addons-X.Y.Z.tar.bz2 - bundled ROMS + libs Non-distro users need to manually download & install an extra piece compared to now. 4. Change existing dist, never distribute bundled ROMs + libs at all qemu-X.Y.Z.tar.bz2 - qemu source only Only here for completeness, not a serious suggestion 5. Change nothing Continue ignoring the problem I aim to solve. My patch did option 2, but I really open to any of 1/2/3 without a strong preference, as long as we can get some agreement on one. I guess option 1 might be easiest to get agreement on given its minimal impact. Regards, Daniel -- |: https://berrange.com -o- https://www.flickr.com/photos/dberrange :| |: https://libvirt.org -o- https://fstop138.berrange.com :| |: https://entangle-photo.org -o- https://www.instagram.com/dberrange :|