From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Cc: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH qemu 0/4] memory: Reduce memory use
Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2017 20:08:48 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170907100848.GL2735@umbus.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170907095142.GA2194@work-vm>
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On Thu, Sep 07, 2017 at 10:51:42AM +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> * Alexey Kardashevskiy (aik@ozlabs.ru) wrote:
> > This was inspired by https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1481593
> >
> > What happens ithere is that every virtio block device creates 2 address
> > spaces - for modern config space (called "virtio-pci-cfg-as") and
> > for busmaster (common pci thing, called after the device name,
> > in my case "virtio-blk-pci").
> >
> > Each address_space_init() updates topology for every address space.
> > Every topology update (address_space_update_topology()) creates a new
> > dispatch tree - AddressSpaceDispatch with nodes (1KB) and
> > sections (48KB) and destroys the old one.
> >
> > However the dispatch destructor is postponed via RCU which does not
> > get a chance to execute until the machine is initialized but before
> > we get there, memory is not returned to the pool, and this is a lot
> > of memory which grows n^2.
> >
> > These patches are trying to address the memory use and boot time
> > issues but tbh only the first one provides visible outcome.
>
> Do you have a feel for how much memory is saved?
I think that's a bit hard to answer.
As noted above there's O(n^2) (or more) space complexity here - one
which shouldn't be required by the data we actually have to track.
That means the amount of "excess" memory depends on how many devices
there are.
I haven't yet looked at these patches in detail, to know if it truly
fixes that O(n^2) or just pares the constant. If it does fix the
O(n^2) then the amount is going to vary from "probably not enough to
worry about" in normal use cases to hundreds of gigabytes in cases
with many devices.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-09-07 10:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-09-07 9:20 [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH qemu 0/4] memory: Reduce memory use Alexey Kardashevskiy
2017-09-07 9:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH qemu 1/4] memory: Postpone flatview and dispatch tree building till all devices are added Alexey Kardashevskiy
2017-09-07 9:30 ` Peter Maydell
2017-09-07 14:27 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2017-09-07 14:30 ` Peter Maydell
2017-09-08 6:21 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2017-09-07 9:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH qemu 2/4] memory: Prepare for shared flat views Alexey Kardashevskiy
2017-09-09 7:18 ` David Gibson
2017-09-10 9:17 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2017-09-07 9:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH qemu 3/4] memory: Share flat views and dispatch trees between address spaces Alexey Kardashevskiy
2017-09-07 20:53 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2017-09-07 22:18 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2017-09-11 7:40 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-09-11 9:06 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2017-09-11 9:37 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-09-11 12:08 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2017-09-11 15:30 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-09-12 5:55 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2017-09-12 7:12 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-09-12 9:47 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2017-09-07 9:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH qemu 4/4] memory: Add flat views to HMP "info mtree" Alexey Kardashevskiy
2017-09-07 9:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC PATCH qemu 0/4] memory: Reduce memory use Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-07 10:08 ` David Gibson [this message]
2017-09-07 14:44 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2017-09-07 14:54 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-08 2:08 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2017-09-08 4:04 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2017-09-08 11:12 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
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