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From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Mark Cave-Ayland <mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk>
Cc: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@ozlabs.ru>,
	lvivier@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	Greg Kurz <groug@kaod.org>,
	qemu-ppc@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] [PATCH 2/4] ppc: add CPU IRQ state to PPC VMStateDescription
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 13:30:22 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170914033022.GI3972@umbus.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <760c3889-8561-9bce-e565-ccbcb9eb8cf5@ilande.co.uk>

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On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 05:44:54PM +0100, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote:
> On 13/09/17 07:02, David Gibson wrote:
> 
> >>> Alexey - do you recall from your analysis why these fields were no
> >>> longer deemed necessary, and how your TCG tests were configured?
> >>
> >> I most certainly did not do analysis (my bad. sorry) - I took the patch
> >> from David as he left the team, fixed to compile and pushed away. I am also
> >> very suspicions we did not try migrating TCG or anything but pseries. My
> >> guest that things did not break (if they did not which I am not sure about,
> >> for the TCG case) because the interrupt controller (XICS) or the
> >> pseries-guest took care of resending an interrupt which does not seem to be
> >> the case for mac99.
> > 
> > Right, that's probably true.  The main point, though, is that these
> > fields were dropped a *long* time ago, when migration was barely
> > working to begin with.  In particular I'm pretty sure most of the
> > non-pseries platforms were already pretty broken for migration
> > (amongst other things).
> > 
> > Polishing the mac platforms up to working again, including migration,
> > is a reasonable goal.  But it can't be at the expense of pseries,
> > which is already working, used in production, and much better tested
> > than mac99 or g3beige ever were.
> 
> Oh I completely agree since I'm well aware pseries likely has more users
> than the Mac machines - my question was directed more about why we
> support backwards migration.
> 
> I spent several hours yesterday poking my Darwin test case with trying
> the different combinations of pending_interrupts, irq_input_state and
> access_type and could easily provoke migration failures unless all 3 of
> the fields were present so a practical test shows they are still
> required for TCG migration. I think ppc_set_irq()'s use of the interrupt
> fields in hw/ppc/ppc.c and the subsequent reference to pending
> interrupts in target/ppc may explain why I see freezes/hangs until a key
> is pressed in many cases.

Ok, I think we need to consider (pending_interrupts and irq_input_state)
separately from access_type.  The first two are pretty closely related
to each other, and I've got at least a rough idea of what the problems
there might be.  access_type I'm pretty sure has to be an unrelated
problem, and I've got much less of a handle on it.

I suspect we could work around the problems with pending_interrupts
and irq_input_state by having a post_load hook in the board level
interrupt controller to reassert its output irq line based on its
current state.  I believe the relevant irq inputs to the cpu are
effectively level triggered, so I think that will be enough.

access_type I don't have any good ideas for yet.  We really need to
work out what the exact race is here that's causing its state to be
lost harmfully.

-- 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-09-14  3:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-10 14:37 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] ppc: migration fixes for TCG Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-09-10 14:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] ppc: change CPUPPCState access_type from int to uint8_t Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-09-10 16:30   ` Laurent Vivier
2017-09-10 18:00     ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-09-10 14:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] ppc: add CPU IRQ state to PPC VMStateDescription Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-09-11  7:50   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Greg Kurz
2017-09-11  9:30     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-11 10:48       ` David Gibson
2017-09-11 16:46         ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-09-11 17:19           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-13  7:03             ` David Gibson
2017-09-12 16:21         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-12 16:41           ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-09-12 16:46             ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-09-13  2:23               ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2017-09-13  6:02                 ` David Gibson
2017-09-13 16:44                   ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-09-13 17:13                     ` Greg Kurz
2017-09-14  3:48                       ` David Gibson
2017-09-14  3:30                     ` David Gibson [this message]
2017-09-10 14:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] ppc: add CPU access_type into the migration stream Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-09-11 10:57   ` David Gibson
2017-09-11 16:52     ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-09-13  7:19       ` David Gibson
2017-09-13 17:17         ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-09-14  3:54           ` David Gibson
2017-09-10 14:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] ppc: ensure we update the decrementer value during migration Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-09-13  7:12   ` David Gibson
2017-09-13 17:11     ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-09-13 17:58       ` Laurent Vivier
2017-09-14  3:52         ` David Gibson
2017-09-15 12:45           ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-09-19  8:36             ` David Gibson

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