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From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Laurent Vivier <lvivier@redhat.com>
Cc: Mark Cave-Ayland <mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk>,
	aik@ozlabs.ru, qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] ppc: ensure we update the decrementer value during migration
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 13:52:59 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170914035259.GK3972@umbus.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ccacf611-c2e2-9cad-d927-67c0fcaa3ad6@redhat.com>

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On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 07:58:23PM +0200, Laurent Vivier wrote:
> On 13/09/2017 19:11, Mark Cave-Ayland wrote:
> > On 13/09/17 08:12, David Gibson wrote:
> > 
> >> This is subtly incorrect.  It sets the DECR on load to exactly the
> >> value that was saved.  That effectively means that the DECR is frozen
> >> for the migration downtime, which probably isn't what we want.
> >>
> >> Instead we need to save the DECR as an offset from the timebase, and
> >> restore it relative to the (downtime adjusted) timebase on the
> >> destination.
> >>
> >> The complication with that is that the timebase is generally migrated
> >> at the machine level, not the cpu level: the timebase is generally
> >> synchronized between cpus in the machine, and migrating it at the
> >> individual cpu could break that.  Which means we probably need a
> >> machine level hook to handle the decrementer too, even though it
> >> logically *is* per-cpu, because otherwise we'll be trying to restore
> >> it before the timebase is restored.
> > 
> > I know that we discussed this in-depth last year, however I was working
> > along the lines that Laurent's patch fixed this along the lines of our
> > previous discussion:
> > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2017-02/msg00338.html (and
> > indeed Laurent's analysis at
> > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2017-02/msg01489.html).
> > 
> > However looking again at the this patch in the context you mentioned
> > above, I'm starting to wonder if the right solution now is for the
> > machine init function for g3beige/mac99 to do the same as spapr, e.g.
> > add cpu_ppc_clock_vm_state_change() as a vm_change_state_handler and
> > then add VMSTATE_PPC_TIMEBASE_V from the machine PPCTimeBase into my new
> > subsection?
> > 
> > Laurent, do you think that your state change handler would work
> > correctly in this way?
> 
> I think all is explained in the second link you have mentioned, it seems 
> we don't need a state handler as KVM DECR will no be updated by the migrated value:
> 
> hw/ppc/ppc.c
> 
>     736 static void __cpu_ppc_store_decr(PowerPCCPU *cpu, uint64_t *nextp,
>     737                                  QEMUTimer *timer,
>     738                                  void (*raise_excp)(void *),
>     739                                  void (*lower_excp)(PowerPCCPU *),
>     740                                  uint32_t decr, uint32_t value)
>     741 {
> ...
>     749     if (kvm_enabled()) {
>     750         /* KVM handles decrementer exceptions, we don't need our own timer */
>     751         return;
>     752     }
> ...
> 
> But this allows to migrate it for TCG. And it should be correct because in case of TCG I think [need to check] timebase is stopped too (so offset is 0)
> 
> David, do you agree with that?

Yes, I think so.  Some details might be different, but the basic idea
of migrating the timebase and decrementers at machine level should be
the same for pseries and g3beige/whatever.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-14  3:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-10 14:37 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] ppc: migration fixes for TCG Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-09-10 14:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] ppc: change CPUPPCState access_type from int to uint8_t Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-09-10 16:30   ` Laurent Vivier
2017-09-10 18:00     ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-09-10 14:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] ppc: add CPU IRQ state to PPC VMStateDescription Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-09-11  7:50   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Greg Kurz
2017-09-11  9:30     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-11 10:48       ` David Gibson
2017-09-11 16:46         ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-09-11 17:19           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-13  7:03             ` David Gibson
2017-09-12 16:21         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-12 16:41           ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-09-12 16:46             ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-09-13  2:23               ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2017-09-13  6:02                 ` David Gibson
2017-09-13 16:44                   ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-09-13 17:13                     ` Greg Kurz
2017-09-14  3:48                       ` David Gibson
2017-09-14  3:30                     ` David Gibson
2017-09-10 14:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] ppc: add CPU access_type into the migration stream Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-09-11 10:57   ` David Gibson
2017-09-11 16:52     ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-09-13  7:19       ` David Gibson
2017-09-13 17:17         ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-09-14  3:54           ` David Gibson
2017-09-10 14:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] ppc: ensure we update the decrementer value during migration Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-09-13  7:12   ` David Gibson
2017-09-13 17:11     ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-09-13 17:58       ` Laurent Vivier
2017-09-14  3:52         ` David Gibson [this message]
2017-09-15 12:45           ` Mark Cave-Ayland
2017-09-19  8:36             ` David Gibson

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