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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
To: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] [PATCH 15/18] block/mirror: Add active mirroring
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2017 11:06:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170918100626.GE31063@stefanha-x1.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2f1c5239-0cde-d164-b803-ebf807e684f2@redhat.com>

On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 03:58:01PM +0200, Max Reitz wrote:
> On 2017-09-14 17:57, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 08:19:07PM +0200, Max Reitz wrote:
> >> This patch implements active synchronous mirroring.  In active mode, the
> >> passive mechanism will still be in place and is used to copy all
> >> initially dirty clusters off the source disk; but every write request
> >> will write data both to the source and the target disk, so the source
> >> cannot be dirtied faster than data is mirrored to the target.  Also,
> >> once the block job has converged (BLOCK_JOB_READY sent), source and
> >> target are guaranteed to stay in sync (unless an error occurs).
> >>
> >> Optionally, dirty data can be copied to the target disk on read
> >> operations, too.
> >>
> >> Active mode is completely optional and currently disabled at runtime.  A
> >> later patch will add a way for users to enable it.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
> >> ---
> >>  qapi/block-core.json |  23 +++++++
> >>  block/mirror.c       | 187 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
> >>  2 files changed, 205 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/qapi/block-core.json b/qapi/block-core.json
> >> index bb11815608..e072cfa67c 100644
> >> --- a/qapi/block-core.json
> >> +++ b/qapi/block-core.json
> >> @@ -938,6 +938,29 @@
> >>    'data': ['top', 'full', 'none', 'incremental'] }
> >>  
> >>  ##
> >> +# @MirrorCopyMode:
> >> +#
> >> +# An enumeration whose values tell the mirror block job when to
> >> +# trigger writes to the target.
> >> +#
> >> +# @passive: copy data in background only.
> >> +#
> >> +# @active-write: when data is written to the source, write it
> >> +#                (synchronously) to the target as well.  In addition,
> >> +#                data is copied in background just like in @passive
> >> +#                mode.
> >> +#
> >> +# @active-read-write: write data to the target (synchronously) both
> >> +#                     when it is read from and written to the source.
> >> +#                     In addition, data is copied in background just
> >> +#                     like in @passive mode.
> > 
> > I'm not sure the terms "active"/"passive" are helpful.  "Active commit"
> > means committing the top-most BDS while the guest is accessing it.  The
> > "passive" mirror block still works on the top-most BDS while the guest
> > is accessing it.
> > 
> > Calling it "asynchronous" and "synchronous" is clearer to me.  It's also
> > the terminology used in disk replication (e.g. DRBD).
> 
> I'd be OK with that, too, but I think I remember that in the past at
> least Kevin made a clear distinction between active/passive and
> sync/async when it comes to mirroring.
> 
> > Ideally the user wouldn't have to worry about async vs sync because QEMU
> > would switch modes as appropriate in order to converge.  That way
> > libvirt also doesn't have to worry about this.
> 
> So here you mean async/sync in the way I meant it, i.e., whether the
> mirror operations themselves are async/sync?

The meaning I had in mind is:

Sync mirroring means a guest write waits until the target write
completes.

Async mirroring means guest writes completes independently of target
writes.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-18 10:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-13 18:18 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/18] block/mirror: Add active-sync mirroring Max Reitz
2017-09-13 18:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/18] block: Add BdrvDeletedStatus Max Reitz
2017-09-13 18:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/18] block: BDS deletion during bdrv_drain_recurse Max Reitz
2017-09-18  3:44   ` Fam Zheng
2017-09-18 16:13     ` Max Reitz
2017-10-09 18:30       ` Max Reitz
2017-10-10  8:36   ` Kevin Wolf
2017-10-11 11:41     ` Max Reitz
2017-09-13 18:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/18] blockjob: Make drained_{begin, end} public Max Reitz
2017-09-18  3:46   ` Fam Zheng
2017-09-13 18:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/18] block/mirror: Pull out mirror_perform() Max Reitz
2017-09-18  3:48   ` Fam Zheng
2017-09-25  9:38   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-09-13 18:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/18] block/mirror: Convert to coroutines Max Reitz
2017-09-18  6:02   ` Fam Zheng
2017-09-18 16:41     ` Max Reitz
2017-10-10  9:14   ` Kevin Wolf
2017-10-11 11:43     ` Max Reitz
2017-09-13 18:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/18] block/mirror: Use CoQueue to wait on in-flight ops Max Reitz
2017-09-13 18:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/18] block/mirror: Wait for in-flight op conflicts Max Reitz
2017-09-13 18:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/18] block/mirror: Use source as a BdrvChild Max Reitz
2017-10-10  9:27   ` Kevin Wolf
2017-10-11 11:46     ` Max Reitz
2017-09-13 18:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/18] block: Generalize should_update_child() rule Max Reitz
2017-09-13 18:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/18] block/mirror: Make source the file child Max Reitz
2017-10-10  9:47   ` Kevin Wolf
2017-10-11 12:02     ` Max Reitz
2017-09-13 18:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/18] hbitmap: Add @advance param to hbitmap_iter_next() Max Reitz
2017-09-25 15:38   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-09-25 20:40     ` Max Reitz
2017-09-13 18:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/18] block/dirty-bitmap: Add bdrv_dirty_iter_next_area Max Reitz
2017-09-25 15:49   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-09-25 20:43     ` Max Reitz
2017-10-02 13:32     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-09-13 18:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/18] block/mirror: Keep write perm for pending writes Max Reitz
2017-10-10  9:58   ` Kevin Wolf
2017-10-11 12:20     ` Max Reitz
2017-09-13 18:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/18] block/mirror: Distinguish active from passive ops Max Reitz
2017-09-13 18:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/18] block/mirror: Add active mirroring Max Reitz
2017-09-14 15:57   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-16 13:58     ` Max Reitz
2017-09-18 10:06       ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2017-09-18 16:26         ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Max Reitz
2017-09-19  9:44           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-19  9:57             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-20 14:56               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-10-10 10:16           ` Kevin Wolf
2017-10-11 12:33             ` Max Reitz
2017-09-13 18:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/18] block/mirror: Add copy mode QAPI interface Max Reitz
2017-09-13 18:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/18] qemu-io: Add background write Max Reitz
2017-09-18  6:46   ` Fam Zheng
2017-09-18 17:53     ` Max Reitz
2017-09-19  8:03       ` Fam Zheng
2017-09-21 14:40         ` Max Reitz
2017-09-21 14:59           ` Fam Zheng
2017-09-21 15:03             ` Max Reitz
2017-09-13 18:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/18] iotests: Add test for active mirroring Max Reitz
2017-09-18  6:45   ` Fam Zheng
2017-09-18 16:53     ` Max Reitz
2017-09-19  8:08       ` Fam Zheng
2017-09-14 15:42 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/18] block/mirror: Add active-sync mirroring Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-16 14:02   ` Max Reitz
2017-09-18 10:02     ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-18 15:42       ` Max Reitz

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