Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] ppc/pnv: fix cores per chip for multiple cpus

[David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>]

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On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 12:10:48PM +0530, Nikunj A Dadhania wrote:
> David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> writes:
> 
> > On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 10:43:19AM +0530, Nikunj A Dadhania wrote:
> >> David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> writes:
> >> 
> >> > On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 09:50:24AM +0530, Nikunj A Dadhania wrote:
> >> >> David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> writes:
> >> >> 
> >> >> > On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 02:39:16PM +0530, Nikunj A Dadhania wrote:
> >> >> >> David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> writes:
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> > On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 01:53:15PM +0530, Nikunj A Dadhania wrote:
> >> >> >> >> David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> writes:
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> I thought, I am doing the same here for PowerNV, number of online cores
> >> >> >> >> >> is equal to initial online vcpus / threads per core
> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >>    int boot_cores_nr = smp_cpus / smp_threads;
> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >> Only difference that I see in PowerNV is that we have multiple chips
> >> >> >> >> >> (max 2, at the moment)
> >> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> >>         cores_per_chip = smp_cpus / (smp_threads * pnv->num_chips);
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > This doesn't make sense to me.  Cores per chip should *always* equal
> >> >> >> >> > smp_cores, you shouldn't need another calculation for it.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> And in case user has provided sane smp_cores, we use it.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > If smp_cores isn't sane, you should simply reject it, not try to fix
> >> >> >> >> > it.  That's just asking for confusion.
> >> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> >> This is the case where the user does not provide a topology(which is a
> >> >> >> >> valid scenario), not sure we should reject it. So qemu defaults
> >> >> >> >> smp_cores/smt_threads to 1. I think it makes sense to over-ride.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > If you can find a way to override it by altering smp_cores when it's
> >> >> >> > not explicitly specified, then ok.
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> Should I change the global smp_cores here as well ?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I'm pretty uneasy with that option.
> >> >> 
> >> >> Me too.
> >> >> 
> >> >> > It would take a fair bit of checking to ensure that changing smp_cores
> >> >> > is safe here. An easier to verify option would be to make the generic
> >> >> > logic which splits up an unspecified -smp N into cores and sockets
> >> >> > more flexible, possibly based on machine options for max values.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > That might still be more trouble than its worth.
> >> >> 
> >> >> I think the current approach is the simplest and less intrusive, as we
> >> >> are handling a case where user has not bothered to provide a detailed
> >> >> topology, the best we can do is create single threaded cores equal to
> >> >> number of cores.
> >> >
> >> > No, sorry.  Having smp_cores not correspond to the number of cores per
> >> > chip in all cases is just not ok.  Add an error message if the
> >> > topology isn't workable for powernv by all means.  But users having to
> >> > use a longer command line is better than breaking basic assumptions
> >> > about what numbers reflect what topology.
> >> 
> >> Sorry to ask again, as I am still not convinced, we do similar
> >> adjustment in spapr where the user did not provide the number of cores,
> >> but qemu assumes them as single threaded cores and created
> >> cores(boot_cores_nr) that were not same as smp_cores ?
> >
> > What?  boot_cores_nr has absolutely nothing to do with adjusting the
> > topology, and it certainly doesn't assume they're single threaded.
> 
> When we start a TCG guest and user provides following commandline, e.g.
> "-smp 4", smt_threads is set to 1 by default in vl.c. So the guest boots
> with 4 cores, each having 1 thread.

Ok.. and what's the problem with that behaviour on powernv?

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