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From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Stefan Hajnoczi <shajnocz@redhat.com>,
	Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>,
	"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] iothread: provide helpers for internal use
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2017 11:17:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170922101728.GJ12725@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d0992b81-d5d0-6957-d292-52be50a21ec7@redhat.com>

On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 12:14:04PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 22/09/2017 11:43, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 11:38:31AM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> >> On 22/09/2017 11:36, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> >>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 05:14:30PM +0800, Peter Xu wrote:
> >>>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 10:04:33AM +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> >>>>> On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 04:56:10PM +0800, Peter Xu wrote:
> >>>>>> IOThread is a general framework that contains IO loop environment and a
> >>>>>> real thread behind.  It's also good to be used internally inside qemu.
> >>>>>> Provide some helpers for it to create iothreads to be used internally.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Signed-off-by: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
> >>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>  include/sysemu/iothread.h |  8 ++++++++
> >>>>>>  iothread.c                | 21 +++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>>>>  2 files changed, 29 insertions(+)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> diff --git a/include/sysemu/iothread.h b/include/sysemu/iothread.h
> >>>>>> index d2985b3..b07663f 100644
> >>>>>> --- a/include/sysemu/iothread.h
> >>>>>> +++ b/include/sysemu/iothread.h
> >>>>>> @@ -46,4 +46,12 @@ AioContext *iothread_get_aio_context(IOThread *iothread);
> >>>>>>  void iothread_stop_all(void);
> >>>>>>  GMainContext *iothread_get_g_main_context(IOThread *iothread);
> >>>>>>  
> >>>>>> +/*
> >>>>>> + * Helpers used to allocate iothreads for internal use.  These
> >>>>>> + * iothreads will not be seen by monitor clients when query using
> >>>>>> + * "query-iothreads".
> >>>>>> + */
> >>>>>> +IOThread *iothread_create(const char *id, Error **errp);
> >>>>>> +void iothread_destroy(IOThread *iothread);
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>>  #endif /* IOTHREAD_H */
> >>>>>> diff --git a/iothread.c b/iothread.c
> >>>>>> index 44c8944..74e400c 100644
> >>>>>> --- a/iothread.c
> >>>>>> +++ b/iothread.c
> >>>>>> @@ -354,3 +354,24 @@ GMainContext *iothread_get_g_main_context(IOThread *iothread)
> >>>>>>  
> >>>>>>      return iothread->worker_context;
> >>>>>>  }
> >>>>>> +
> >>>>>> +static Object *iothread_get_internal_parent(void)
> >>>>>> +{
> >>>>>> +    return container_get(object_get_root(), "/internal-iothreads");
> >>>>>> +}
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I tend to think we might benefit from having this generalized in the
> >>>>> QOM API instead. We have object_get_objects_root() for things that
> >>>>> are created by the mgmt app / user via CLI / QMP.  A parallel method
> >>>>> object_get_internal_root() could be useful for cases like this where
> >>>>> we want to create user-creatable objects, but not have them be
> >>>>> visible to the mgmt app / user, as that would confuse the mgmt app.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Example for this scenario - libvirt calls query-iothreads to identify
> >>>>> IO thread PIDs, and would get very unhappy if the IOThread used by
> >>>>> the monitor would appear in that response, which is why Peter has
> >>>>> put it under /internal-iothreads. I think this scenario will apply
> >>>>> more broadly, so benefit from us having a general helper in QOM.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yeah, I can split the patch if we want it to be exposed to public.
> >>>>
> >>>> In that case, would the name "object_get_internal_root" be good?
> >>>
> >>> Yeah that's fine with me, but lets see if Paolo has any thoughts from
> >>> the QOM side.
> >>
> >> No, I don't.  However, I wonder if query-iothreads should have an
> >> argument to include internal iothreads.
> > 
> > I guess it depends whether we consider use of iothreads for migration
> > to be a private impl detail that may be ripped out & replaced at any
> > time, or a semi-public detail that apps may rely on.  Personally I
> > would suggest it should be a private impl detail of migration code
> > that is never exposed to anything outside QEMU, so we have flexibility
> > to change it at will later.
> 
> As far as I understood it's not migration, it's the whole monitor that
> moves to the iothread.  So it's a thing that lasts for the whole
> existence of the QEMU process.  But I may be wrong.

Sorry yes, my bad - its the iothread behind the monitor. I still think that
is a detail worth keeping private in case we want to refactor how the
monitor threading works later.

Regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-22 10:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-22  8:56 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/3] iothread: allow to create internal iothreads Peter Xu
2017-09-22  8:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] iothread: provide helpers for internal use Peter Xu
2017-09-22  9:04   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-22  9:14     ` Peter Xu
2017-09-22  9:36       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-22  9:38         ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-09-22  9:43           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-22 10:14             ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-09-22 10:17               ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2017-09-22 12:59                 ` Fam Zheng
2017-09-22 13:03                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-09-22 10:54               ` Peter Xu
2017-09-22 10:16   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-22 10:18     ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-09-22 10:20       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-22 10:26         ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-09-22 10:28           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-09-22 14:35             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-22 14:55               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-10-02 17:18     ` Markus Armbruster
2017-10-08 12:46       ` Peter Xu
2017-09-22  8:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] iothread: export iothread_stop() Peter Xu
2017-09-22 13:06   ` Fam Zheng
2017-09-25  3:29     ` Peter Xu
2017-09-22  8:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] iothread: delay the context release to finalize Peter Xu
2017-09-22 13:09   ` Fam Zheng
2017-09-25  5:23     ` Peter Xu
2017-09-25  5:30       ` Fam Zheng
2017-09-25  5:50         ` Peter Xu
2017-09-25  5:58           ` Fam Zheng

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