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From: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>, Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Xiao Guangrong <xiaoguangrong.eric@gmail.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel@redhat.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Anthony Perard <anthony.perard@citrix.com>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
	Bharata B Rao <bharata@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Amit Shah <amit@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] qdev: Mark devices as non-hotpluggable by default
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 15:46:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170925154647.357047b9@nial.brq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170925133153.GZ3030@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 10:31:53 -0300
Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 01:53:16PM +0200, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> > On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 11:16:34 +0200
> > Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com> wrote:
> >   
> > > Historically we've marked all devices as hotpluggable by default. However,
> > > most devices are not hotpluggable, and you also need a HotplugHandler to
> > > support these devices. So if the user tries to "device_add" or "device_del"
> > > such a non-hotpluggable device during runtime, either nothing really usable
> > > happens, or QEMU even crashes/aborts unexpectedly (see for example commit
> > > 84ebd3e8c7d4fe955b - "Mark diag288 watchdog as non-hotpluggable").
> > > So let's change this dangerous default behaviour and mark the devices as
> > > non-hotpluggable by default. Certain parent devices classes which are known
> > > as hotpluggable (e.g. PCI, USB, etc.) are marked with "hotpluggable = true",
> > > so that devices that are derived from these classes continue to work as
> > > expected.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
> > > ---
> > >  v2: Add missing devices and dropped "RFC" status. See Eduardo's reply on
> > >  the previous version of this patch for the rationale which devices need
> > >  to be hotpluggable:
> > >  https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2017-09/msg06128.html
> > > 
> > >  hw/char/virtio-serial-bus.c   |  1 +
> > >  hw/core/qdev.c                | 10 ++++------
> > >  hw/mem/nvdimm.c               |  3 +++
> > >  hw/mem/pc-dimm.c              |  1 +
> > >  hw/pci/pci.c                  |  1 +
> > >  hw/ppc/spapr_cpu_core.c       |  1 +
> > >  hw/s390x/ccw-device.c         |  1 +
> > >  hw/scsi/scsi-bus.c            |  1 +
> > >  hw/usb/bus.c                  |  1 +
> > >  hw/usb/dev-smartcard-reader.c |  1 +
> > >  hw/xen/xen_backend.c          |  1 +
> > >  target/i386/cpu.c             |  4 ++--
> > >  target/s390x/cpu.c            |  1 +
> > >  13 files changed, 19 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)  
> > 
> > Hm, this seems to break hotplug of virtio devices:
> > 
> > (qemu) device_add virtio-net-pci,id=xxx
> > Device 'virtio-net-device' does not support hotplugging
> > 
> > (qemu) device_add virtio-net-ccw,id=yyy
> > Device 'virtio-net-device' does not support hotplugging
> > 
> > We probably need to enable hotplug for virtio devices as well?  
> 
> I've seen a similar case broken by "[PATCH] hw/core/qdev: Do not
> allow hot-plugging without hotplug controller", because we're
> blocking creation of devices created internally by other devices,
> not just the ones created by device_add.  I need to find the
> exact reproducer again.
> 
> It would probably simplify things if we move the check for
> DeviceClass::hotpluggable to qmp_device_add(), instead of
> device_set_realized().
if we would have to do that, than we are probably doing
something wrong and not using property right. Perhaps we
should fix property instead of trying find a place to check
it where it would hurt less.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-25 13:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-22  9:16 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] qdev: Mark devices as non-hotpluggable by default Thomas Huth
2017-09-22 10:13 ` David Gibson
2017-09-25 10:13 ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2017-09-25 11:53 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-09-25 13:31   ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-09-25 13:46     ` Igor Mammedov [this message]
2017-09-25 14:34       ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-09-25 15:19         ` Thomas Huth
2017-09-25 15:26           ` Peter Maydell
2017-09-25 17:42             ` Thomas Huth
2017-09-25 17:45               ` Peter Maydell
2017-09-25 17:51                 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-09-25 18:02                   ` Peter Maydell
2017-09-25 18:20                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-09-25 18:46                       ` Peter Maydell
2017-09-25 17:59               ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-09-25 18:05                 ` Peter Maydell
2017-09-25 18:09                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-09-26  2:59                   ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-09-26  3:29                     ` Thomas Huth
2017-09-26 16:11                     ` Peter Maydell
2017-09-26 17:27                 ` Thomas Huth
2017-09-26 18:00                   ` Peter Maydell
2017-09-25 17:48             ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-09-26  5:26 ` Bharata B Rao
2017-09-26 10:20   ` Thomas Huth

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