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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>
Cc: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	Yi Min Zhao <zyimin@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, agraf@suse.de, pasic@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	jjherne@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/1] s390x: create a compat s390 phb for <=2.10
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 15:28:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170927142837.GB2108@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4681e677-9e5a-4c1c-8e22-dc5c51b7286d@redhat.com>

* David Hildenbrand (david@redhat.com) wrote:
> On 27.09.2017 12:59, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On 09/27/2017 12:56 PM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> >> On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 18:25:00 +0800
> >> Yi Min Zhao <zyimin@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> 在 2017/9/27 下午5:47, Cornelia Huck 写道:
> >>>> On Tue, 26 Sep 2017 20:40:25 +0200
> >>>> David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>>> I'd really really really (did I mention really?) favor something like a
> >>>>> dummy device, because we could easily handle the !CONFIG_PCI case then.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> All these compat options and conditions will kill us someday... we're
> >>>>> already patching around that whole stuff way too much.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If we ever unconditionally created a device, we should keep doing so.  
> >>>> Yes, that whole thing is horrible, especially interaction with compat
> >>>> machines.
> >>>>
> >>>> Do you have an idea on how to create such a dummy device (without
> >>>> having to effectively copy a lot of configured-out code)?
> >>>>
> >>>>  
> >>> How about in s390_pcihost_hot_plug() we check s390_has_feat(zpci)?
> >>> If no zpci feature, we avoid plugging any pci device.
> >>> Then we could always create phb.
> >>> I think pcibus's vmstate is only data to migrate.
> >>
> >> That's still problematic if CONFIG_PCI is off. I currently don't have a
> >> better idea than either disallowing compat machines on builds without
> >> pci, or using a dummy device...
> > 
> > For this particular case your initial patch might be less problematic than
> > a dummy device, because the code that does the migration is NOT contained
> > in s390 specific code but in common PCI code instead. We would need to keep
> > the dummy device always in a way that it will work with the common PCI
> > code.
> > 
> 
> Interesting, so how is migration then handled for e.g. x86 or other
> architectures that can work without CONFIG_PCI? I assume their migration
> should also break?

It's tied to machine-type; the x86 i440fx and q35 machine types have
PCI; you can't disable PCI while still having those machine types.
(I don't know if you can disable PCI at all on x86)

Dave

> -- 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> David
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-09-27 14:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-26 16:20 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/1] s390x: more zpci compat fun Cornelia Huck
2017-09-26 16:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/1] s390x: create a compat s390 phb for <=2.10 Cornelia Huck
2017-09-26 17:07   ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-09-26 18:40   ` David Hildenbrand
2017-09-27  9:47     ` Cornelia Huck
2017-09-27 10:25       ` Yi Min Zhao
2017-09-27 10:56         ` Cornelia Huck
2017-09-27 10:59           ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-09-27 12:21             ` David Hildenbrand
2017-09-27 12:26               ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-09-27 14:28               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2017-09-27 14:46                 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-09-27 14:49                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2017-09-27 15:03                     ` Cornelia Huck
2017-09-28 10:34                       ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-09-28 10:41                         ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-09-28 12:07                           ` Cornelia Huck
2017-09-28 12:17                             ` Christian Borntraeger
2017-09-28 12:27                               ` Cornelia Huck
2017-09-28 12:33                           ` David Hildenbrand

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