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From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: "Igor Mammedov" <imammedo@redhat.com>,
	"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
	ehabkost@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, anderson@redhat.com,
	lersek@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 2/7] hw/misc: add vmcoreinfo device
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 09:31:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171010083143.GA30015@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171010003951-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>

On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 12:44:26AM +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 09, 2017 at 02:02:18PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 09, 2017 at 02:43:44PM +0200, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> > > On Mon, 9 Oct 2017 12:03:36 +0100
> > > "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 06:59:24PM +0200, Marc-André Lureau wrote:
> > > > > See docs/specs/vmcoreinfo.txt for details.
> > > > > 
> > > > > "etc/vmcoreinfo" fw_cfg entry is added when using "-device vmcoreinfo".  
> > > > 
> > > > I'm wondering if you considered just adding the entry to fw_cfg by
> > > > default, without requiring any -device arg ? Unless I'm misunderstanding,
> > > > this doesn't feel like a device to me - its just a well known bucket
> > > > in fw_cfg IIUC ?  Obviously its existance would need to be tied to
> > > > the latest machine type for ABI reasons though. The benefit of this
> > > > is that it would "just work" without us having to plumb it through to
> > > > all the downstream applications that use QEMU for mgmt guest (OpenStack,
> > > > oVirt, GNOME Boxes, virt-manager, and countless other mgmt apps).
> > > it follows model set by pvpanic device, it's easier to manage from migration
> > > POV, one could use it even for old machine types with new qemu (just by adding
> > > device, it makes instance not backwards migratable to old qemu but should work
> > > for forward migration) and if user doesn't need it, device could be just omitted
> > > from CLI.
> > 
> > Sure but it means that in effect no one will have this functionality enabled
> > for several years. pvpanic has been around a long time and I rarely see it
> > present in configured guests :-(
> > 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Daniel
> 
> libvirt runs with -nodefaults, right? I'd argue pretty strongly -nodefaults
> shouldn't add optional devices anyway.

This isn't really adding a device though is it - it is just a well known
location in fw_cfg to receive data.

Regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-10  8:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-11 16:59 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 0/7] KASLR kernel dump support Marc-André Lureau
2017-09-11 16:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 1/7] fw_cfg: add write callback Marc-André Lureau
2017-09-11 16:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 2/7] hw/misc: add vmcoreinfo device Marc-André Lureau
2017-10-09 11:03   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-10-09 11:46     ` Marc-André Lureau
2017-10-09 12:43     ` Igor Mammedov
2017-10-09 13:02       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-10-09 21:44         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-10  8:31           ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2017-10-10 15:00             ` Marc-André Lureau
2017-10-10 15:03               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-10 15:06               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-10-10 15:21                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-10 18:01                 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-10-15  1:56                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-20 18:48                     ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-04-17 19:12                       ` Cole Robinson
2018-04-17 21:11                         ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-04-17 22:31                           ` Cole Robinson
2018-04-17 22:53                             ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-10-15  2:02                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-10-10 19:15           ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-09-11 16:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 3/7] dump: add guest ELF note Marc-André Lureau
2017-09-11 16:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 4/7] dump: update phys_base header field based on VMCOREINFO content Marc-André Lureau
2017-09-11 16:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 5/7] kdump: set vmcoreinfo location Marc-André Lureau
2017-09-11 16:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 6/7] scripts/dump-guest-memory.py: add vmcoreinfo Marc-André Lureau
2017-09-11 16:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 7/7] MAINTAINERS: add Dump maintainers Marc-André Lureau
2017-09-25 10:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v6 0/7] KASLR kernel dump support Marc-André Lureau
2017-10-09 10:57   ` Marc-André Lureau

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