From: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
To: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Cc: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, eblake@redhat.com, armbru@redhat.com,
pkrempa@redhat.com, peter.maydell@linaro.org,
pbonzini@redhat.com, cohuck@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC 4/6] CLI: add -paused option
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2017 22:15:48 -0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171020001548.GK2942@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171019104218.GB13245@umbus>
On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 09:42:18PM +1100, David Gibson wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 02:59:16PM -0200, Eduardo Habkost wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 06:22:54PM +0200, Igor Mammedov wrote:
> > > Signed-off-by: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
> > > ---
> > > include/sysemu/sysemu.h | 1 +
> > > qemu-options.hx | 15 ++++++++++++++
> > > qmp.c | 5 +++++
> > > vl.c | 54 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> > > 4 files changed, 74 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/include/sysemu/sysemu.h b/include/sysemu/sysemu.h
> > > index b213696..3feb94f 100644
> > > --- a/include/sysemu/sysemu.h
> > > +++ b/include/sysemu/sysemu.h
> > > @@ -66,6 +66,7 @@ typedef enum WakeupReason {
> > > QEMU_WAKEUP_REASON_OTHER,
> > > } WakeupReason;
> > >
> > > +void qemu_exit_preconfig_request(void);
> > > void qemu_system_reset_request(ShutdownCause reason);
> > > void qemu_system_suspend_request(void);
> > > void qemu_register_suspend_notifier(Notifier *notifier);
> > > diff --git a/qemu-options.hx b/qemu-options.hx
> > > index 39225ae..bd44db8 100644
> > > --- a/qemu-options.hx
> > > +++ b/qemu-options.hx
> > > @@ -3498,6 +3498,21 @@ STEXI
> > > Run the emulation in single step mode.
> > > ETEXI
> > >
> > > +DEF("paused", HAS_ARG, QEMU_OPTION_paused, \
> > > + "-paused [state=]postconf|preconf\n"
> > > + " postconf: pause QEMU after machine is initialized\n"
> > > + " preconf: pause QEMU before machine is initialized\n",
> > > + QEMU_ARCH_ALL)
> >
> > I would like to allow pausing before machine-type is selected, so
> > management could run query-machines before choosing a
> > machine-type. Would that need a third "-pause" mode, or will we
> > be able to change "preconf" to pause before select_machine() is
> > called?
> >
> > The same probably applies to other things initialized before
> > machine_run_board_init() that could be configurable using QMP,
> > including but not limited to:
> > * Accelerator configuration
> > * Registering global properties
> > * RAM size
> > * SMP/CPU configuration
>
> Yeah.. having a bunch of different possible pause stages to select
> doesn't sound great.
I agree. The number of externally visible pause states should be
as small as possible.
> Could we avoid this by instead changing -S to
> pause at the earliest possible spot, but having any monitor commands
> that require a later stage automatically "fast forwarding" to the
> right phase?
That would hide the internal details from the outside. Sounds
nice, but adding new machine/device configuration QMP commands
while hiding the QEMU state from the outside sounds impossible.
For example, if we use -S today, this works:
$ qemu-system-x86_64 -S -qmp stdio
<- {"QMP": {"version": {"qemu": {"micro": 0, "minor": 10, "major": 2}, "package": " (v2.10.0-83-g9375da7831)"}, "capabilities": []}}
-> {"execute":"qmp_capabilities"}
<- {"return": {}}
-> {"execute":"query-cpus"}
<- {"return": [{"arch": "x86", "current": true, "props": {"core-id": 0, "thread-id": 0, "socket-id": 0}, "CPU": 0, "qom_path": "/machine/unattached/device[0]", "pc": 4294967280, "halted": false, "thread_id": 4038}]}
This means "query-cpus" needs to fast-forward to the CPU creation
stage if we want to keep compatibility.
Now, assume we add a set-numa-node command like the one in this
series. e.g.:
$ qemu-system-x86_64 -S -qmp stdio
<- {"QMP": {"version": {"qemu": {"micro": 0, "minor": 10, "major": 2}, "package": " (v2.10.0-83-g9375da7831)"}, "capabilities": []}}
-> {"execute":"qmp_capabilities"}
<- {"return": {}}
-> {"execute":"set-numa-node" ... }
<- {"return": ...}
The command will work only if machine initialization didn't run
yet.
But now an innocent-looking query command would change QEMU state
in an unexpected way:
$ qemu-system-x86_64 -S -qmp stdio
<- {"QMP": {"version": {"qemu": {"micro": 0, "minor": 10, "major": 2}, "package": " (v2.10.0-83-g9375da7831)"}, "capabilities": []}}
-> {"execute":"qmp_capabilities"}
<- {"return": {}}
-> {"execute":"query-cpus"} [will silently fast-forward QEMU state]
<- {"return": [{"arch": "x86", "current": true, "props": {"core-id": 0, "thread-id": 0, "socket-id": 0}, "CPU": 0, "qom_path": "/machine/unattached/device[0]", "pc": 4294967280, "halted": false, "thread_id": 4038}]}
-> {"execute":"set-numa-node" ... }
<- {"error": ...} [the command will fail because the machine was already created]
This means we do have a externally visible "too late to use
set-numa-node" QEMU state, and query-cpus will have a externally
visible side effect. Every QMP command would need to document
how it affects QEMU state in a externally visible way.
If QEMU pause state is still going to be externally visible this
way, I would prefer to let the client to explicitly tell what's
the state they want QEMU to be, instead of making QEMU change
state silently as a side effect of QMP commands.
>
[...]
--
Eduardo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-10-20 0:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-16 16:22 [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/6] enable numa configuration before machine_init() from HMP/QMP Igor Mammedov
2017-10-16 16:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 1/6] numa: postpone options post-processing till machine_run_board_init() Igor Mammedov
2017-10-17 5:49 ` David Gibson
2017-10-16 16:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 2/6] numa: split out NumaOptions parsing into parse_NumaOptions() Igor Mammedov
2017-10-18 3:27 ` David Gibson
2017-10-18 14:53 ` Eric Blake
2017-10-16 16:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 3/6] possible_cpus: add CPUArchId::type field Igor Mammedov
2017-10-18 11:12 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 " Igor Mammedov
2017-10-19 6:31 ` David Gibson
2017-10-31 14:01 ` Igor Mammedov
2017-11-06 18:02 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-11-07 15:04 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-09 6:58 ` David Gibson
2017-11-09 20:02 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-11-10 10:14 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-11-10 12:34 ` David Hildenbrand
2017-11-10 12:58 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-11-10 13:07 ` David Hildenbrand
2017-11-21 14:02 ` Igor Mammedov
2017-11-09 6:53 ` David Gibson
2017-10-16 16:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 4/6] CLI: add -paused option Igor Mammedov
2017-10-16 16:35 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-10-17 8:17 ` Igor Mammedov
2017-10-17 10:56 ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-10-17 11:11 ` Peter Krempa
2017-10-20 15:38 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-10-16 16:59 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-10-16 17:01 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-10-16 17:17 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-10-17 8:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-10-17 9:25 ` Igor Mammedov
2017-10-17 14:48 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-10-17 15:21 ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-10-17 15:35 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-10-17 15:42 ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-10-17 15:47 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-10-17 15:47 ` Igor Mammedov
2017-10-17 15:52 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-10-17 9:10 ` Igor Mammedov
2017-10-19 10:42 ` David Gibson
2017-10-20 0:15 ` Eduardo Habkost [this message]
2017-10-20 1:19 ` David Gibson
2017-10-20 14:21 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-10-23 9:49 ` Igor Mammedov
2017-10-23 9:53 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-10-23 10:36 ` Igor Mammedov
2017-10-23 10:49 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-10-23 11:18 ` Igor Mammedov
2017-10-25 10:52 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-10-25 10:35 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-10-23 9:30 ` Alex Bennée
2017-10-16 16:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 5/6] HMP: add set-numa-node command Igor Mammedov
2017-10-16 16:22 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 6/6] QMP: " Igor Mammedov
2017-10-16 16:36 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC 0/6] enable numa configuration before machine_init() from HMP/QMP Daniel P. Berrange
2017-10-16 17:05 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-10-17 7:27 ` Igor Mammedov
2017-10-17 15:07 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-10-17 15:24 ` Laszlo Ersek
2017-10-17 16:06 ` Igor Mammedov
2017-10-17 16:09 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-10-17 16:18 ` Igor Mammedov
2017-10-18 12:59 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-10-18 14:44 ` Igor Mammedov
2017-10-18 14:49 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-10-18 15:24 ` Igor Mammedov
2017-10-18 15:27 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-10-18 20:11 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-10-18 15:30 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-10-18 20:22 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-10-19 11:49 ` David Gibson
2017-10-19 12:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-10-20 1:21 ` David Gibson
2017-10-20 19:53 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-10-23 8:17 ` Igor Mammedov
2017-10-23 8:45 ` Igor Mammedov
2017-10-25 6:57 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-10-25 7:02 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-10-25 13:37 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-10-19 15:21 ` Igor Mammedov
2017-10-19 15:28 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-10-19 19:56 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-10-20 9:07 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-10-20 20:07 ` Eduardo Habkost
2017-10-23 8:53 ` Igor Mammedov
2017-10-23 10:04 ` Igor Mammedov
2017-10-23 10:19 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-10-18 12:19 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-10-18 12:27 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2017-10-18 12:33 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-10-18 14:26 ` Igor Mammedov
2017-10-18 14:29 ` Paolo Bonzini
2017-10-18 14:54 ` Igor Mammedov
2017-10-18 14:21 ` Igor Mammedov
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