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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
Cc: Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.11] block: Keep strong reference when draining all BDS
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2017 17:22:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171110162224.GG5466@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e8ebf3e5-3f0c-1b9c-3ae4-e55c23c242a4@redhat.com>

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Am 10.11.2017 um 17:13 hat Max Reitz geschrieben:
> On 2017-11-10 17:05, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > Am 10.11.2017 um 16:23 hat Max Reitz geschrieben:
> >> On 2017-11-10 14:32, Fam Zheng wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 11/10 14:17, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> >>>> Do you actually need to keep references to all BDSes in the whole list
> >>>> while using the iterator or would it be enough to just keep a reference
> >>>> to the current one?
> >>>
> >>> To fix the bug we now see I think keeping the current is enough, but I think
> >>> implementing just like this patch is also good with some future-proofing: we
> >>> cannot know what will be wedged into the nexted aio_poll()'s over time (and yes,
> >>> we should really reduce the number of them.)
> >>
> >> I don't really want to think about whether it's safe to only keep a
> >> reference to the current BDS.  I can't imagine any case where destroying
> >> one root BDS leads to destroying another, but I'd rather be safe and not
> >> have to think about it.  (Unless there is an important reason to only
> >> keep a strong reference to the current one.)
> > 
> > Why would it be a problem if another BDS from the list went away? If it
> > is one that was already processed, we don't care, and if it was in the
> > yet unprocessed part of the list, we'll just never return it.
> 
> You mean from bdrv_next() in its current form?  Well, I know that when I
> just put a bdrv_ref()/bdrv_unref() pair around the drain, I got a
> segfault in blk_all_next() in bdrv_next().  I can investigate more, but
> that's pretty much what I mean by "I don't really want to think about it".

No, I mean a bdrv_next() that is modified to bdrv_ref() only what
it->blk/it->bs point to currently instead of allocating a whole list.

Kevin

> So that's why I want bdrv_next() to copy all BDS into another list
> instead of iterating through them on the fly.  And if we do that, a
> disappearing BDS of course is an issue because we don't notice until
> we're trying to iterate over it, at which point we have a use-after-free.
> 
> Max

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-10 16:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-09 20:43 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.11] block: Keep strong reference when draining all BDS Max Reitz
2017-11-09 21:02 ` Eric Blake
2017-11-10  2:45 ` Fam Zheng
2017-11-10 13:17   ` Kevin Wolf
2017-11-10 13:32     ` Fam Zheng
2017-11-10 15:23       ` Max Reitz
2017-11-10 15:31         ` Fam Zheng
2017-11-10 16:05         ` Kevin Wolf
2017-11-10 16:13           ` Max Reitz
2017-11-10 16:22             ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2017-11-10 16:43               ` Max Reitz
2017-11-10  9:19 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-11-10 15:26   ` Max Reitz

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