From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Kashyap Chamarthy <kchamart@redhat.com>
Cc: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>,
Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>,
famz@redhat.com, qemu-block@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
mnestratov@virtuozzo.com, armbru@redhat.com,
nshirokovskiy@virtuozzo.com, stefanha@redhat.com,
pbonzini@redhat.com, den@openvz.org, mreitz@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] [PATCH for-2.12 0/4] qmp dirty bitmap API
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 18:33:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171207173304.GB3881@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171207115648.5mnvoyfnig7dhgbn@eukaryote>
Am 07.12.2017 um 12:56 hat Kashyap Chamarthy geschrieben:
> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 07:10:19PM -0500, John Snow wrote:
> > On 11/21/2017 12:23 PM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>
> [...] # Snip lot of good discussion.
>
> > > On another note, I would double check before adding a new block job type
> > > that this is the right way to go. We have recently noticed that many, if
> > > not all, of the existing block jobs (at least mirror, commit and backup)
> > > are so similar that they implement the same things multiple times and
> > > are just lacking different options and have different bugs. I'm
> > > seriously considering merging all of them into a single job type
> > > internally that just provides options that effectively turn it into one
> > > of the existing job types.
> > >
> >
> > I'm not particularly opposed. At the very, very least "backup" and
> > "mirror" are pretty much the same thing and "stream" and "commit" are
> > basically the same.
> >
> > Forcing the backuppy-job and the consolidatey-job together seems like an
> > ever-so-slightly harder case to make, but I suppose the truth of the
> > matter in all cases is that we're copying data from one node to another...
>
> So from the above interesting discussion, it seems like Kevin is leaning
> towards a single job type that offers 'stream', 'commit', 'backup', and
> 'mirror' functionality as part of a single command / job type. Based on
> an instinct, this sounds a bit too stuffy and complex to me.
>
> And John seems to be leaning towards two block device job types:
>
> - 'blockdev-foo' that offers both current 'stream' and 'commit'
> functionality as two different options to the same QMP command; and
>
> - 'blockdev-bar' will offer both 'mirror' and 'backup' functionality
> as part of the same QMP command
>
> FWIW, this seems a bit more palatable, as it is unifying
> similar-functionality-that-differ-slightly into two distinct commands.
>
> (/me is still wrapping his head around the bitmaps and incremental
> backups infrastructure.)
Commit of the active layer is _already_ a mirror job internally (and not
a stream job). It's pretty clear to me that commit and mirror are almost
the same, backup is pretty similar. Stream is somewhat different and
might make more sense as a separate job type.
Kevin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-12-07 17:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-13 16:20 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.12 0/4] qmp dirty bitmap API Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-11-13 16:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] block/dirty-bitmap: add lock to bdrv_enable/disable_dirty_bitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-11-13 17:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4 for-2.11?] " Eric Blake
2017-11-16 7:56 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-11-16 7:59 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-11-13 16:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] qapi: add block-dirty-bitmap-enable/disable Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-11-13 16:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] qmp: transaction support for block-dirty-bitmap-enable/disable Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-11-13 16:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] qapi: add block-dirty-bitmap-merge Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-12-26 8:41 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-11-15 21:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.12 0/4] qmp dirty bitmap API John Snow
2017-11-16 8:17 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-11-17 3:10 ` John Snow
2017-11-17 8:22 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-11-17 21:35 ` John Snow
2017-11-21 17:23 ` Kevin Wolf
2017-11-22 0:10 ` John Snow
2017-11-22 8:40 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-12-07 11:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Kashyap Chamarthy
2017-12-07 17:33 ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2017-12-08 9:35 ` Kashyap Chamarthy
2017-12-07 22:47 ` John Snow
2017-12-08 14:24 ` Max Reitz
2017-11-30 12:10 ` [Qemu-devel] " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-12-07 0:38 ` John Snow
2017-12-07 9:39 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-12-09 0:57 ` John Snow
2017-12-11 9:14 ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-12-11 11:15 ` Kevin Wolf
2017-12-11 12:18 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-12-12 22:15 ` John Snow
2017-12-11 18:40 ` John Snow
2017-12-12 11:16 ` Kevin Wolf
2017-11-20 16:00 ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-11-24 15:01 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-11-27 12:04 ` Kevin Wolf
2017-12-13 4:12 ` Fam Zheng
2017-12-19 16:07 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-12-20 1:06 ` John Snow
2017-12-20 8:05 ` Nikolay Shirokovskiy
2017-12-20 8:20 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-12-20 10:29 ` Kirill Korotaev
2017-12-26 7:07 ` Fam Zheng
2017-12-26 8:57 ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-12-26 9:45 ` Fam Zheng
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