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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Kashyap Chamarthy <kchamart@redhat.com>
Cc: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>,
	Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>,
	famz@redhat.com, qemu-block@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	mnestratov@virtuozzo.com, armbru@redhat.com,
	nshirokovskiy@virtuozzo.com, stefanha@redhat.com,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, den@openvz.org, mreitz@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] [PATCH for-2.12 0/4] qmp dirty bitmap API
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 18:33:04 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171207173304.GB3881@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171207115648.5mnvoyfnig7dhgbn@eukaryote>

Am 07.12.2017 um 12:56 hat Kashyap Chamarthy geschrieben:
> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 07:10:19PM -0500, John Snow wrote:
> > On 11/21/2017 12:23 PM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> 
> [...] # Snip lot of good discussion.
> 
> > > On another note, I would double check before adding a new block job type
> > > that this is the right way to go. We have recently noticed that many, if
> > > not all, of the existing block jobs (at least mirror, commit and backup)
> > > are so similar that they implement the same things multiple times and
> > > are just lacking different options and have different bugs. I'm
> > > seriously considering merging all of them into a single job type
> > > internally that just provides options that effectively turn it into one
> > > of the existing job types.
> > > 
> > 
> > I'm not particularly opposed. At the very, very least "backup" and
> > "mirror" are pretty much the same thing and "stream" and "commit" are
> > basically the same.
> > 
> > Forcing the backuppy-job and the consolidatey-job together seems like an
> > ever-so-slightly harder case to make, but I suppose the truth of the
> > matter in all cases is that we're copying data from one node to another...
> 
> So from the above interesting discussion, it seems like Kevin is leaning
> towards a single job type that offers 'stream', 'commit', 'backup', and
> 'mirror' functionality as part of a single command / job type.  Based on
> an instinct, this sounds a bit too stuffy and complex to me.
> 
> And John seems to be leaning towards two block device job types:
> 
>   - 'blockdev-foo' that offers both current 'stream' and 'commit'
>     functionality as two different options to the same QMP command; and
> 
>   - 'blockdev-bar' will offer both 'mirror' and 'backup' functionality
>     as part of the same QMP command
> 
> FWIW, this seems a bit more palatable, as it is unifying
> similar-functionality-that-differ-slightly into two distinct commands.
> 
> (/me is still wrapping his head around the bitmaps and incremental
> backups infrastructure.)

Commit of the active layer is _already_ a mirror job internally (and not
a stream job). It's pretty clear to me that commit and mirror are almost
the same, backup is pretty similar. Stream is somewhat different and
might make more sense as a separate job type.

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-07 17:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-13 16:20 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.12 0/4] qmp dirty bitmap API Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-11-13 16:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] block/dirty-bitmap: add lock to bdrv_enable/disable_dirty_bitmap Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-11-13 17:50   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4 for-2.11?] " Eric Blake
2017-11-16  7:56     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-11-16  7:59     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-11-13 16:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] qapi: add block-dirty-bitmap-enable/disable Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-11-13 16:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] qmp: transaction support for block-dirty-bitmap-enable/disable Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-11-13 16:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] qapi: add block-dirty-bitmap-merge Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-12-26  8:41   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-11-15 21:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH for-2.12 0/4] qmp dirty bitmap API John Snow
2017-11-16  8:17   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-11-17  3:10     ` John Snow
2017-11-17  8:22       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-11-17 21:35         ` John Snow
2017-11-21 17:23           ` Kevin Wolf
2017-11-22  0:10             ` John Snow
2017-11-22  8:40               ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-12-07 11:56               ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Kashyap Chamarthy
2017-12-07 17:33                 ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2017-12-08  9:35                   ` Kashyap Chamarthy
2017-12-07 22:47                 ` John Snow
2017-12-08 14:24                   ` Max Reitz
2017-11-30 12:10           ` [Qemu-devel] " Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-12-07  0:38             ` John Snow
2017-12-07  9:39               ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-12-09  0:57                 ` John Snow
2017-12-11  9:14                   ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-12-11 11:15                   ` Kevin Wolf
2017-12-11 12:18                     ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-12-12 22:15                       ` John Snow
2017-12-11 18:40                     ` John Snow
2017-12-12 11:16                       ` Kevin Wolf
2017-11-20 16:00       ` Denis V. Lunev
2017-11-24 15:01         ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-11-27 12:04           ` Kevin Wolf
2017-12-13  4:12 ` Fam Zheng
2017-12-19 16:07   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-12-20  1:06     ` John Snow
2017-12-20  8:05       ` Nikolay Shirokovskiy
2017-12-20  8:20       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-12-20 10:29         ` Kirill Korotaev
2017-12-26  7:07         ` Fam Zheng
2017-12-26  8:57           ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2017-12-26  9:45             ` Fam Zheng

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