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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org"
	<virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
	"Yang, Zhiyong" <zhiyong.yang@intel.com>,
	"jan.kiszka@siemens.com" <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
	"jasowang@redhat.com" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"avi.cohen@huawei.com" <avi.cohen@huawei.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"marcandre.lureau@redhat.com" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
	Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] [PATCH v3 0/7] Vhost-pci for inter-VM communication
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2017 22:59:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171213222102-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJSP0QWHJBL4APkeMt8-P8PFaPF=Vbi0NSnJtU7YX67fJrW=hw@mail.gmail.com>

>  * VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_KICK
> 
>    Set up vring kick doorbell (unless bit 8 is set) before sending
>    VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_KICK to the guest.

But guest can't use it, now can it?

What guest needs is a mapping to interrupts.


>  * VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_CALL
> 
>    Set up the vring call doorbell (unless bit 8 is set) before sending
>    VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_CALL to the guest.

Same here. what guest needs is mapping from io to notifications,
right?

---

> > I took a quick look and I doubt we can do something that is both
> > compatible with the existing vhost-user and will make it possible to
> > extend the protocol without qemu changes. Let's assume I pass a new
> > message over the vhost-user channel.  How do we know it's safe to pass
> > it to the guest?
> >
> > That's why we gate any protocol change on a feature bit and must parse
> > all messages.
> 
> QEMU must parse all messages and cannot pass through unknown messages.
> Think of QEMU vhost-pci as both a vhost-user slave to the other VM and
> a vhost-user master to the guest.
> 
> QEMU changes are necessary when the vhost protocol is extended.
> Device interface changes are only necessary if doorbells or shared
> memory regions are added, any other protocol changes do not change the
> device interface.
> 
> Stefan

I guess you have a different definition of a device interface than
myself - I consider it an interface change if a feature bit changes :)

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-13 20:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-05  3:33 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/7] Vhost-pci for inter-VM communication Wei Wang
2017-12-05  3:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 1/7] vhost-user: share the vhost-user protocol related structures Wei Wang
2017-12-05  3:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 2/7] vhost-pci-net: add vhost-pci-net Wei Wang
2017-12-05 14:59   ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-05 15:17     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-05 15:55     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-05 16:41       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-05 16:53         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-05 17:00           ` Cornelia Huck
2017-12-05 18:06             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-06 10:17     ` Wei Wang
2017-12-06 12:01       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-05  3:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 3/7] virtio/virtio-pci.c: add vhost-pci-net-pci Wei Wang
2017-12-05  3:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 4/7] vhost-pci-slave: add vhost-pci slave implementation Wei Wang
2017-12-05 15:56   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-14 17:30   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-14 17:48   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-05  3:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 5/7] vhost-user: VHOST_USER_SET_VHOST_PCI msg Wei Wang
2017-12-05 16:00   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-06 10:32     ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-12-15 12:40       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-05  3:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 6/7] vhost-pci-slave: handle VHOST_USER_SET_VHOST_PCI Wei Wang
2017-12-05  3:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 7/7] virtio/vhost.c: vhost-pci needs remote gpa Wei Wang
2017-12-05 16:05   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-06 10:46     ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-12-05  4:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/7] Vhost-pci for inter-VM communication no-reply
2017-12-05  7:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2017-12-05  7:15   ` Wei Wang
2017-12-05  7:19     ` Jason Wang
2017-12-05  8:49       ` Avi Cohen (A)
2017-12-05 10:36         ` Wei Wang
2017-12-05 14:30 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-05 15:20 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-05 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-06 13:49 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-06 16:09   ` Wang, Wei W
2017-12-06 16:27     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-07  3:57       ` Wei Wang
2017-12-07  5:11         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-07  5:34           ` Wei Wang
2017-12-07  6:31         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-07  7:54           ` Avi Cohen (A)
2017-12-07  8:04             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-07  8:31               ` Jason Wang
2017-12-07 10:24                 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-07 13:33             ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-07  9:02           ` Wei Wang
2017-12-07 13:08             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-07 14:02               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-07 16:29                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-07 16:47                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-07 17:29                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-07 17:38                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-07 18:28                         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-07 23:54                           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-08  6:08                             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-08 14:27                               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-08 16:15                                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-09 16:08                                 ` Wang, Wei W
2017-12-08  6:43                             ` Wei Wang
2017-12-08  8:33                               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-09 16:23                                 ` Wang, Wei W
2017-12-11 11:11                                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-11 13:53                                     ` Wang, Wei W
2017-12-12 10:14                                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-13  8:11                                         ` Wei Wang
2017-12-13 12:35                                           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-13 15:01                                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-13 20:08                                               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-13 20:59                                                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2017-12-14 15:06                                                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-15 10:33                                                     ` Wei Wang
2017-12-15 12:37                                                       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-13 21:50                                                 ` Maxime Coquelin
2017-12-14 15:46                                                   ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-14 16:27                                                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-14 16:39                                                       ` Maxime Coquelin
2017-12-14 16:40                                                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-14 16:50                                                           ` Maxime Coquelin
2017-12-14 18:11                                                             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-14  5:53                                             ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2017-12-14 17:32                                               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-15  9:10                                                 ` Wei Wang
2017-12-15 12:26                                                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-14 18:04                                               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-15 10:33                                                 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-12-15 12:00                                                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-06 16:13   ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-19 11:35 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-19 14:56   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-19 17:05     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-20  4:06       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-20  6:26         ` Stefan Hajnoczi

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