From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>,
Wei Wang <wei.w.wang@intel.com>,
"virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org"
<virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org>,
"Yang, Zhiyong" <zhiyong.yang@intel.com>,
"jan.kiszka@siemens.com" <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
"jasowang@redhat.com" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
"avi.cohen@huawei.com" <avi.cohen@huawei.com>,
"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"marcandre.lureau@redhat.com" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
Maxime Coquelin <maxime.coquelin@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] [PATCH v3 0/7] Vhost-pci for inter-VM communication
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2017 15:06:09 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171214150609.GQ14433@stefanha-x1.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171213222102-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org>
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On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 10:59:10PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > * VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_KICK
> >
> > Set up vring kick doorbell (unless bit 8 is set) before sending
> > VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_KICK to the guest.
>
> But guest can't use it, now can it?
>
> What guest needs is a mapping to interrupts.
...
> > * VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_CALL
> >
> > Set up the vring call doorbell (unless bit 8 is set) before sending
> > VHOST_USER_SET_VRING_CALL to the guest.
>
> Same here. what guest needs is mapping from io to notifications,
> right?
The PCI device should contain a BAR with doorbell registers. I don't
think a fancy mapping is necessary, instead the device spec should
define the BAR layout.
When the guest vhost-user slave receives this message it knows it can
now begin using the doorbell register.
> ---
>
> > > I took a quick look and I doubt we can do something that is both
> > > compatible with the existing vhost-user and will make it possible to
> > > extend the protocol without qemu changes. Let's assume I pass a new
> > > message over the vhost-user channel. How do we know it's safe to pass
> > > it to the guest?
> > >
> > > That's why we gate any protocol change on a feature bit and must parse
> > > all messages.
> >
> > QEMU must parse all messages and cannot pass through unknown messages.
> > Think of QEMU vhost-pci as both a vhost-user slave to the other VM and
> > a vhost-user master to the guest.
> >
> > QEMU changes are necessary when the vhost protocol is extended.
> > Device interface changes are only necessary if doorbells or shared
> > memory regions are added, any other protocol changes do not change the
> > device interface.
> >
> > Stefan
>
> I guess you have a different definition of a device interface than
> myself - I consider it an interface change if a feature bit changes :)
The feature bits are defined in the vhost-user protocol specification,
not in the vhost-pci PCI device specification.
For example, imagine we are adding the virtio-net MTU feature to the
protocol:
1. The VHOST_USER_PROTOCOL_F_MTU feature bit is added to the
vhost-user protocol specification.
2. The VHOST_USER_NET_SET_MTU message is added to the vhost-user
protocol specification.
As a result of this:
1. No PCI adapter resources (BARs, register layout, etc) change. This
is why I say the device interface is unchanged. The vhost-pci
specification does not change.
2. QEMU vhost-pci code needs to unmask VHOST_USER_PROTOCOL_F_MTU and
pass through VHOST_USER_NET_SET_MTU.
Stefan
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Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-12-05 3:33 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/7] Vhost-pci for inter-VM communication Wei Wang
2017-12-05 3:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 1/7] vhost-user: share the vhost-user protocol related structures Wei Wang
2017-12-05 3:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 2/7] vhost-pci-net: add vhost-pci-net Wei Wang
2017-12-05 14:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-05 15:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-05 15:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-05 16:41 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-05 16:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-05 17:00 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-12-05 18:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-06 10:17 ` Wei Wang
2017-12-06 12:01 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-05 3:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 3/7] virtio/virtio-pci.c: add vhost-pci-net-pci Wei Wang
2017-12-05 3:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 4/7] vhost-pci-slave: add vhost-pci slave implementation Wei Wang
2017-12-05 15:56 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-14 17:30 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-14 17:48 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-05 3:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 5/7] vhost-user: VHOST_USER_SET_VHOST_PCI msg Wei Wang
2017-12-05 16:00 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-06 10:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-12-15 12:40 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-05 3:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 6/7] vhost-pci-slave: handle VHOST_USER_SET_VHOST_PCI Wei Wang
2017-12-05 3:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 7/7] virtio/vhost.c: vhost-pci needs remote gpa Wei Wang
2017-12-05 16:05 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-06 10:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-12-05 4:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/7] Vhost-pci for inter-VM communication no-reply
2017-12-05 7:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2017-12-05 7:15 ` Wei Wang
2017-12-05 7:19 ` Jason Wang
2017-12-05 8:49 ` Avi Cohen (A)
2017-12-05 10:36 ` Wei Wang
2017-12-05 14:30 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-05 15:20 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-05 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-06 13:49 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-06 16:09 ` Wang, Wei W
2017-12-06 16:27 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-07 3:57 ` Wei Wang
2017-12-07 5:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-07 5:34 ` Wei Wang
2017-12-07 6:31 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-07 7:54 ` Avi Cohen (A)
2017-12-07 8:04 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-07 8:31 ` Jason Wang
2017-12-07 10:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-07 13:33 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-07 9:02 ` Wei Wang
2017-12-07 13:08 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-07 14:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-07 16:29 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-07 16:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-07 17:29 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-07 17:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-07 18:28 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-07 23:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-08 6:08 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-08 14:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-08 16:15 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-09 16:08 ` Wang, Wei W
2017-12-08 6:43 ` Wei Wang
2017-12-08 8:33 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-09 16:23 ` Wang, Wei W
2017-12-11 11:11 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-11 13:53 ` Wang, Wei W
2017-12-12 10:14 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-13 8:11 ` Wei Wang
2017-12-13 12:35 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-13 15:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-13 20:08 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-13 20:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-14 15:06 ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2017-12-15 10:33 ` Wei Wang
2017-12-15 12:37 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-13 21:50 ` Maxime Coquelin
2017-12-14 15:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-14 16:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-14 16:39 ` Maxime Coquelin
2017-12-14 16:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-14 16:50 ` Maxime Coquelin
2017-12-14 18:11 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-14 5:53 ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2017-12-14 17:32 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-15 9:10 ` Wei Wang
2017-12-15 12:26 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-14 18:04 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-15 10:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-12-15 12:00 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-06 16:13 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-19 11:35 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-19 14:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-19 17:05 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-20 4:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-20 6:26 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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