From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
Cc: "Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org,
"Avi Cohen (A)" <avi.cohen@huawei.com>,
"Yang, Zhiyong" <zhiyong.yang@intel.com>,
"Jan Kiszka" <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>,
"Jason Wang" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
"Wei Wang" <wei.w.wang@intel.com>,
"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] [PATCH v3 0/7] Vhost-pci for inter-VM communication
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 06:06:31 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171220060449-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJSP0QV80YLwDfKJaXkjepwttsrX1wuH0c_69KTq_mGimYMf1g@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 05:05:59PM +0000, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> * Please handle short reads/writes and EAGAIN with the UNIX domain socket. Do
> >> not use read/write_all() functions because they hang QEMU until I/O
> >> completes.
> >
> > I'm not sure I agree with this one. vhost-user uses this extensively
> > right now. It might be a worth-while goal to drop this limitation
> > but I don't see why we should start with vhost-pci.
> >
> > And in particular, VCPU can't make progress unless a slave is present.
>
> Hang on, we're talking about different things:
>
> The QEMU vhost-user master blocks because vhost_*() functions are
> synchronous (they don't use callbacks or yield). Fixing that is
> beyond the scope of this patch series and I'm not asking for it.
>
> This patch series adds a from-scratch vhost-user slave implementation
> which has no good reason to be blocking. A single malicious or broken
> guest must not be able to hang a vhost-pci network switch.
Hmm that's not an easy change. But I agree, it's more important for
the switch.
> >> * How can the the guest limit the number of virtqueues?
> >
> > I think it is feasible to pass in host features, # of vqs etc. Assuming
> > compatibility with existing guests, I don't think you can do anything
> > else really if you assume that vhost guest might boot after the
> > virtio guest.
> >
> > So either you give up on compatibility, or you allow the vhost
> > guest to block the virtio guest.
> >
> > I think compatibility is more important.
> >
> > We can later think about ways to add non-blocking behaviour
> > as a feature.
>
> I agree it's a separate feature because it will require non-vhost-pci
> related changes.
>
> I have posted a separate email thread to discuss a solution.
>
> >>
> >> * Please include tests. See tests/virtio-net-test.c and
> >> tests/vhost-user-test.c for examples.
> >
> > Unit tests are nice but an actual way to test without
> > running a full blown dpdk stack would be nicer.
> > Something along the lines of a port of vhost user bridge
> > to the guest.
>
> Yes!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-12-20 4:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-12-05 3:33 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/7] Vhost-pci for inter-VM communication Wei Wang
2017-12-05 3:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 1/7] vhost-user: share the vhost-user protocol related structures Wei Wang
2017-12-05 3:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 2/7] vhost-pci-net: add vhost-pci-net Wei Wang
2017-12-05 14:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-05 15:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-05 15:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-05 16:41 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-05 16:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-05 17:00 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-12-05 18:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-06 10:17 ` Wei Wang
2017-12-06 12:01 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-05 3:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 3/7] virtio/virtio-pci.c: add vhost-pci-net-pci Wei Wang
2017-12-05 3:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 4/7] vhost-pci-slave: add vhost-pci slave implementation Wei Wang
2017-12-05 15:56 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-14 17:30 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-14 17:48 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-05 3:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 5/7] vhost-user: VHOST_USER_SET_VHOST_PCI msg Wei Wang
2017-12-05 16:00 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-06 10:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-12-15 12:40 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-05 3:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 6/7] vhost-pci-slave: handle VHOST_USER_SET_VHOST_PCI Wei Wang
2017-12-05 3:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 7/7] virtio/vhost.c: vhost-pci needs remote gpa Wei Wang
2017-12-05 16:05 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-06 10:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-12-05 4:13 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/7] Vhost-pci for inter-VM communication no-reply
2017-12-05 7:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Jason Wang
2017-12-05 7:15 ` Wei Wang
2017-12-05 7:19 ` Jason Wang
2017-12-05 8:49 ` Avi Cohen (A)
2017-12-05 10:36 ` Wei Wang
2017-12-05 14:30 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-05 15:20 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-05 16:06 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-06 13:49 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-06 16:09 ` Wang, Wei W
2017-12-06 16:27 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-07 3:57 ` Wei Wang
2017-12-07 5:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-07 5:34 ` Wei Wang
2017-12-07 6:31 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-07 7:54 ` Avi Cohen (A)
2017-12-07 8:04 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-07 8:31 ` Jason Wang
2017-12-07 10:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-07 13:33 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-07 9:02 ` Wei Wang
2017-12-07 13:08 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-07 14:02 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-07 16:29 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-07 16:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-07 17:29 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-07 17:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-07 18:28 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-07 23:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-08 6:08 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-08 14:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-08 16:15 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-09 16:08 ` Wang, Wei W
2017-12-08 6:43 ` Wei Wang
2017-12-08 8:33 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-09 16:23 ` Wang, Wei W
2017-12-11 11:11 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-11 13:53 ` Wang, Wei W
2017-12-12 10:14 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-13 8:11 ` Wei Wang
2017-12-13 12:35 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-13 15:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-13 20:08 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-13 20:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-14 15:06 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-15 10:33 ` Wei Wang
2017-12-15 12:37 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-13 21:50 ` Maxime Coquelin
2017-12-14 15:46 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-14 16:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-14 16:39 ` Maxime Coquelin
2017-12-14 16:40 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-14 16:50 ` Maxime Coquelin
2017-12-14 18:11 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-14 5:53 ` [Qemu-devel] " Wei Wang
2017-12-14 17:32 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-15 9:10 ` Wei Wang
2017-12-15 12:26 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-14 18:04 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-15 10:33 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Wei Wang
2017-12-15 12:00 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-06 16:13 ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-19 11:35 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-19 14:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-12-19 17:05 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-12-20 4:06 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2017-12-20 6:26 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
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